UKIP candidate wants compulsory abortion...

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...for foetuses with Downs Syndrome and other disabilities. Can't believe it. I hope that any Mumsnetters living in Kent can get out and vote for someone else! Link is to Gravesend Reporter.
www.gravesendreporter.co.uk/news/exclusive_compulsory_abortion_for_down_s_syndrome_foetuses_says_ukip_kent_candidate_1_1745952

Farage has been right about nearly every major issue - the Euro, the EU, Putin etc etc

With respect claig, he is very untried in eg the economy, education, health blah blah. I doubt whether he has thought about them much at all.

IsItMeBut, no idea why you are being rude to me.
[never exactly wins people over to your side does it?]

the most popular politician in Britain.

Is he?
Or is it possibly for this european election[and it hasnt even been done yet]

How is quoting the following facts being rude?

Rabbitrisen ….. Ukip cannot bring the UK out of Europe, only a Conservative majority government in 2015 can/will – Ukip cannot change british Law – what bit of that don’t you understand – so Farage is lying to the electorate.

Still SOME people in Ukip tell the truth, it’s a shame Janice (in the link below) doesn’t post on here.
www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/24/ukip-eu-exit-take-years

“Ukip will have to negotiate a withdrawal from the European Union over many years and the party still has to work out the details of how it would secure such an exit, a leading Ukip MEP candidate in May's European elections has conceded”.

“Janice Atkinson, who is number two on the party's candidate list in the South East England constituency, admitted it would be impossible just to walk away from the EU.”

“Her remarks at a public meeting in Brighton last week underline the extent to which key details of Ukip policy have yet to be developed.”

Ukip have ONE policy that they cannot deliver, so exist 100% claiming a £78k salary and huge expenses/allowances on a lie, yet is meant to be different to existing political parties????

Wake up, you're being sold a dodgy pup.

'With respect claig, he is very untried in eg the economy, education, health'

I agree, but if his popularity continues to soar, the public may even trust him on those issues. We wll have to wait and see. They may not, hey may reluctantly return to the spinners, but that is not certain.

"UKIP leader Nigel Farage is the most popular political leader as well as the only one to have a positive net satisfaction rating, according to a new poll."

www.londonlovesbusiness.com/business-news/politics/ukip-leader-nigel-farage-most-popular-party-leader-says-poll/5009.article

That is not to do with the Euro elections.

The "in touch" Labour Party brought near economic and social ruin on the UK, but it's the "out of touch Conservative led coalition that is both fixing Labour's messes across all ministries, making it the fastest growing developed nation AND can deliver an EU Referendum.

Yet Ukip's Farage who ditches policies before dinner time and picks and chooses what he 'opposes' for votes is some kind of Guru...what are you lot, the bleedin' Moonies????

what bit of that don’t you understand

Wake up, you're being sold a dodgy pup.

Those bits

"Popular" means NOTHING if you have to run a country, "popular" were the snakeoil Salesman selling Dr Feelgood's elixer of rollocks to fix everything.

"Popular"was 99.9% of people saying screw the Investment Bank tax receipts for the past 30-years, let them take their pre crash £60-£100 bil annual tax receipts somewhere else in Europe as we can take the pain of cuts without them - were they right??????????

Since when has 'popular' had anything to do with substance?????

If Ukip hasn't got a policy they can deliver, WHY ARE YOU CONFUSED?????

'what are you lot, the bleedin' Moonies????'

No, we are the voting public. I am sure the metropolitan elite and their spinners call us "moonies" behind our backs, just as they allegedly called their own Conservative constituency party activists "swivel-eyed loons" behind their backs or as Gordon Brown called Mrs Duffy a "bigoted woman" behind her back.

We all know that Labour are worse than Cameron's metropolitan elite, but what you are refusing to face is that politics has moved on. The public does not think that what Cameron has done is enough. That is why half the Conservative Party's membership has left since Cameron became leader and why the Conservative Party is at 18% and UKIP at 38% in the Euro polls.

It is no use hiding your head in the sand, even the politically correct spinners are staring doom in the face when they watch Channel 4 News and see an old woman say that her "and her friend" are voting UKIP when asked by an Oxbridge type with a microphone and a press badge.

rabbitrisen....what would you call it if a political party tells an outright lie on their ONE policy for votes, a thoroughbred????

'what would you call it if a political party tells an outright lie on their ONE policy for votes, a thoroughbred????'

a Cleggism?

Claig.....am I spinning that UKIP CANNOT bring the UK out of the EU???

YES or NO?

Please tell the people how Ukip can deliver their one policy please.

IsItmebut. I dont understand some of your posts.

Actually, I will tell you what I told claig once upon a time, and he/she took the advice on baord.

If you are interested in others agreeing with you, you need to make your posts, user friendly as it were.

I did advise claig at one time, that his/her posts were too long.

I would say to you, that you do come across as rude sometimes. Also, if people want to learn from you, they need to be understand your posts, and also not get shot down if they dont.

Oh, and if you put a lot of your posts in bold, it looks like you are shouting. Not sure if that is your intention or not.

I don't know. I don't share your defeatism . I have hope.

Where there's a Farage, theres a way.

I don't know how it will be done, but I think Farage will find a way.

Cameron tells us repeatedly that people were defeatist and told him that he would never be able to negotiate a cut in our EU contribution, and yet he managed to do it.

I have hope that Farage will find a way too.

Claig....Clegg did exactly what Farage is doing; he promised something he knew he could not deliver as he'd never be running the country, but he was, in coalition, so had to ditch Uni Fees as not in the Coalition Agreement - why can't you see the comparison between policies the two main parties will be expected to deliver on - and those the 'others' offer to get votes???

Labour never knew how it would fund 50% of our children going on the further education and brought in some fees, and with a £157 bil deficit would have done exactly what the coalition did - the fault was expecting 50% of our children to go on to Uni, unprecedented in the western world.

Claig .... Farage IS NOT IN WESTMINSTER, he does not have a 326 seat majority to even attempt to get it through the Lords, THERE IS NO WAY.

Isitmebut, the reason the public are voting UKIP is because they want change, they do not want more of the same. The public has not given up hope. All the spinners say that the public is "anti politics" just because it has decided to vote against the spinners, but the fact that the public will turn out to vote shows that they are not "anti politics" and that they still have hope that things can change.

You are arguing for more of he same, for the staus quo, but the majority have now moved on and have rejected that. They want something different. If the Etonians can't understand that, then they are in for a bigger drubbing than anyone has predicted.

"Farage IS NOT IN WESTMINSTER"

Not yet. If he had stood in Newark, he would have been.

Where there is a Farage, there is a way.

The situation is not hopeless. The people want change.

It is widely acknowledged that the public might get a referendum in 2017 only because UKIP has forcd it onto the agenda and the Tories have had to concede it. What happens if teh public says we want out of Europe?

Surely the spinners and the metropolitan elite will have no choice but to start the process of exit?

Farage does not have to do it, he may just be the catalyst.

Do any of you think that if such law came ever into force, it would actually increase the birth rate of children with DS?
Maybe we, women, would be afraid to lose the control over our bodies and foetuses so would not go for amnio tests. We would go ahead with our pregnancies not knowing whether the child has the syndrome or not.

The article is two years old, isn't it?

Yes, he was suspended by UKIP, but the election still went ahead and he lost to a Conservative candidate.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-20813977

This candidates opinion was his own. UKIP does not support his views. So before you all start jumping on the bandwagon of outrage. He has been suspended from the party. One swallow does not make a summer!!!!

UKIP spokesperson at the time hardly fell over themselves in their desperation to distance the party from his disablist and misogynistic views, or immediately acknowledge that this man was not fit for public office

you could be forgiven for assuming they tacitly approved his stance

Wishful ok, so if we move away from 'jumping on the bandwagon of outrage' for this one issue we are still left with

• a wish to 'move those with disability to a specialist care community, with a move away from independent living'

• a wish to repeal the human rights act

• decriminalisation of rape.

• calling climate change a lie (really? REALLY?!)

whichever way you look at it, however you want to argue it, these are stupid, uber right wing idiots at best - at worst, a collective of fascist, hatred spouting Nazis.