Three children found dead

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m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-27122410

Very, very sad

That poor, poor family. The poor woman. How desperate she must have felt to think this was the best decision.

Am I the only cow on here who read about the family and felt rage that the dad 'loved golf' and went off to play it at weekends and was soon off to America to watch the open and had taken his healthy daughter to SA? He left that mother alone again and again with three sick babies. I had two babies, only one of whom was sick with an illness that was not life threatening and was left alone a lot. It was almost unbearable. But to have three and a husband who gallivants off to enjoy his golf while you tend to three dying children... that could take you to the brink.

I know it's cruel to judge him as he is in torment but I get so sick of men who continue to live their full lives, same jobs, same hobbies as before, while women are left to hold the fort under unbearable circumstances.

No. Just don't make reference to who might have been the culprit.

Look what happened to Sally Bercow.

Awful case and the news does confirm an arrest. My thoughts are with the father, older siblings and those three children. There are many other options and ending a life is illegal in the UK for a reason.

And, (not that is should make any difference whatsoever) but, in addition to contempt law, it might be worth reflecting that when a member of a family of multi-millionaires is charged with a crime, they will be very motivated to ensure that person receives a fair trial and have the capability to fund their own legal action.

Handcream one of the biggest emotions I felt when my daughter was alive (and even now) was guilt, I conceived her, I carried her for all those months, I had all the scans, and I thought my biggest worry was choosing a name.

I spent 20 hours a day, every day watching this tiny, defenceless, innocent scrap of a baby suffer, because I chose to get pregnant.

I inflicted a short life filled with pain on one of the people I love most in this world.

I had to watch her life fade away.

She lived a few weeks and I couldn't bear the pain and guilt, I cannot comprehend what it must be like to feel that way for years.

As I said upthread I can, in all honesty, say that I would have considered doing as this Mother has done had things worked out differently for my daughter. Not out of selfishness, or not being bothered to look after her, or out of boredom or tiredness or anything else but love for my daughter.

Can you really not even attempt to imagine what this Mother has been, and is now going through?

Why cannot I not. My relative had a limited life, that life was destroyed by the illness. They were suffering and in pain. They were causing pain to others. It went on and on for years. we thought next year it would resolve and it didnt. It continued and got worse.

Never did anyone decide that they would end that persons suffering. Its not up to us.

I did have experience of it. That person was of course much older. But never did anyone in the family consider that we should 'stop' that suffering.

Hand cream, as I explained earlier, there are 4 types of sma.Sufferers of types I and II die in childhood - it is extremely unlikely that the woman in her 50s had type I or II.

I just can't see that persuing a prosecution against the mother is in the public interest in this case.

We shouldnt be saying - well if its not a child - it doesnt count! No, it was a relative suffering from dementia.

I have one child and she regressed badly and we were told she almost certainly had some sort of similar condition.

Fortunately she didn't.

But waiting to find out even almost broke me.

So having 3 children diagnosed and going through it is almost unimaginable to me.

Just sad.

Fgs! I gave up on clueless muggles. An elderly relative with dementia. Yep, right up there with THREE of your own little children dying by inches, fully aware of every single second to it, and being their 24 hour carer for years and years.

I don't think anyone is saying it doesn't count, i think they are saying it is an entirely different situation.

I'm so sorry, shakin, so very sorry.

Extremely unlikely to survive - so its OK to do this?

To end the life of three children because YOU have decided its extremely unlikely they will survive?

The mother has been charged with murder. I guess the case will come to court in the normal way.

I am sure the circumstances will be taken into account. But someone did kill those children. They took the decision to kill them without their persmission. They decided to take their lives.

shakin that is an incredibly moving and insightful post.

So who are you to say Everlong that the bond with your children is less or more strong than with your mother or father. The people who brought you up? Or arent they as important? Dont they really count?

Yes, thank you for sharing your daughter with us, shakin.

one of my relatives died of motor neurone disease. it was cruel to keep them alive past a certain point. dementia is nothing like it at all.

shakin thank you for your post. Very moving. I can only imagine what you have been through.