Missing Malaysian Airlines MH-370 - Thread 6

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[TheHoneyBadger]

i do have respect - for the lives of the hundreds of thousands of civilians killed in the last decade or so by politically motivated 'wars'. i really do not believe it necessary to bomb the living daylights out of civilians or send drones into residential areas to protect us.

[GarlicMarchHare]

In my view, along with HoneyBadger, Pan, nancy and a few other less-blinkered posters, it's healthy to explore possible explanations. Though not all that healthy to do it as much as I've been doing Mysteries usually mean cover-ups and I make no apology for being interested in other people's opinions on what was covered up, how, and why. It's ridiculous to insist we shouldn't be interested & concerned because we don't know the answers, singers. Nobody's telling you to abandon your passive attitude, but neither do you have the right to tell others to adopt it!

HoneyBadger was right about the Freescale people: they weren't all admin staff by any means. I felt too ghoulish & miserable to look many of them up. Here's a few:
Huan Peen Chan, 46, Malaysian, Computing engineer
Safuan Ramlan, 32, Malaysian, Manufacturing planner
John Xu, 57, Chinese, Systems design manager
Suhaili Mustafa, 31, Malaysian, Industrial engineer
All high-ranking.


Passenger manifest
RIP :(

[singersgirl]

So it's 'active' to spend your time on an Internet forum discussing conspiracy theories ? I am neither blinkered nor passive but choose to spend my time - mostly - in activities to which I can contribute meaningfully (Obviously this thread is an exception).

A mystery does not mean a cover up. It just means something for which an answer has not yet been found.

And I write as, probably, one of the few people on this thread who has a close relative who has died in a commercial plane crash.

[TheDoctrineOfSnatch]

"Mysteries usually mean cover-ups"

Really?

What happened to the Air France plane was initially a mystery; if the black box hadn't kept pinging for well past its battery life, I think it still would be. It still would have been the blocked pitot tubes and the pilot error that brought it down - we just wouldn't have known.

What happened to the old adage - "if something could be conspiracy or cock up, it's probably cock up"

[claig]

"if something could be conspiracy or cock up, it's probably cock up"

That's what the conspirators always say.
People stopped believing that years ago.

[Treasures]

"You think they give those orders for fun!?"

Not for fun. But if not prepared to give those orders, they would presumably not have chosen a profession where such an order may be deemed necessary to give.

[AnyaKnowIt]

So bad weather has stopped the searches again

[member]

Stopped the air searches - apparently there was an interview with captain of HMAS Success on Australian radio today during which he said they were continuing to search.

http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/#mh370_indian_ocean/map/835894 Tomnod

Zooming in on biggest white blob (easier on a tablet) ?? Cockpit windscreen??

[member]

tomnod

[member]

Sorry, Captain HMAS Success is a She

[PopOfTheTops]

Trying to catch up on the last few threads but struggling.

Can someone please pretty please recap the Inmarsat thing?

Also, that tomnod link...omg. It is totally a cockpit windscreen. :(

[LoopyDoopyDoo]

I apologise to the rest of you, as I was going to leave my upset on the last thread, but backinthebox's reponse has pissed me off.

I am in Malaysia, seeing and hearing a very different kind of national upset to anything I've seen before. Tonight I'm picking up a friend who has had to come back from his posting in another region because his partner, who is MAS cabin crew, simply cannot cope with the loss of his close friends in such circumstances. Next week I am taking a group of school children on a MAS flight to another SE Asian country, and the are frightened. Later tonight I am going to see another friend, who is preparing his speech for his best friend's service at temple. This friend has a wife and two small children who cannot now see their father ever again and have no idea how they will live. What is he going to say in his speech, for crying out loud?

Just because you claim to be a pilot doesn't mean you can silence other people. Your opinion is no more valuable than anyone else's, despite the fawning over pilots etc. we've seen on these threads. I assume we are actually on the same page about most things. I have emphatically said we should not be assuming pilot fault over the threads. I have friends who are pilots. Friends who are also questioning the official line on this.

I reposted something that is going around Facebook and Whatsapp, amongst Malaysian friends. The article may be fantastical, but it's in line with the kids of speculation that a lot of Malaysians are considering.

So, to go back to your first insult, look at your name, backinthebox.

[GarlicMarchHare]

Does this help, Pop.

Thanks for your strong post, Loopy. I can just about imagine what it must be like, there in the centre of the tragedy. I feel for you and for your friends.

the Air France plane was initially a mystery - Rubbish, Doctrine! The technical mystery was exactly why what happened, did happen (even with the black box, there was disagreement on that). There was no mystery at all about what happened - the ACARS transmitted throughout the incident, and wreckage was found the next day. No resemblance between the two events.

[ItsNotATest]

I haven't seen anyone fawning over pilots

[GarlicMarchHare]

Not sure we have any actual pilots :) There may have been unusual regard afforded to posters who said they work in aviation. Unusual for MN, that is - we're not usually renowned for our unquestioning devotion to posters on the basis of what they say about themselves

[TheDoctrineOfSnatch]

Backinthebox is a pilot who has posted as such on past threads.

[whoneedstosleep]

Piers Morgan tweeting for CNN saying search area has now changed as plane was going faster than first thought. Anyone seen anything else about this?

[Treasures]

Just saw on BBC the search area has been shifted due to new 'credible lead'.

[Treasures]

Search to move 1100km north east of current area

[Treasures]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26780897

[TheHoneyBadger]

yes based on a further analysis of the radar coverage between china sea and malacca straits - what with that being the only coverage you allegedly have of a plane that disappeared you wouldn't have analysed that to death straight away would you?

[member]

I thought the speed on radar between South China Sea & Malacca Straits would have been known quite a while back since the primary radar playback was visualized.

On the positive side, New search area closer to land & out of the roaring forties though will take ships time to travel there.

[themaltesefalcon]

These threads have become an embarrassment.

[TheHoneyBadger]

how constructive still i hope you feel better for getting that off your chest.

[TheDoctrineOfSnatch]

"You wouldn't have analysed that to death straight away would you?"

Analyses take time, especially if they are using the data in a different way to normal. I thought we established that on the last thread wrt Inmarsat.