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Missing Malaysian Airlines MH-370 - Thread 6

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member · 27/03/2014 09:31

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Burmahere · 28/03/2014 10:13

Not been back since she went off for her 2 days. Come back Goldie please.

Can't believe the press conference this morning, the acting transport minister looked utterly depressed. This must be so unbelievably frustrating for everyone and as for the families.....

MerryMarigold · 28/03/2014 10:30

Burma, it sounds like from loopy's post that everyone in Malaysia is utterly depressed and tied in knots over this (including the government). I do feel for them...but maybe it is time for a change of government.

Honey, I don't know why the US is keeping so quiet, unless they have supplied date on the quiet, but we haven't heard about it, and everything we have heard leads to the search areas they have been searching. I understand they have other priorities, but in terms of PR, being more involved/ more open in all this, should be a good thing? Did they send a search plane?

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 28/03/2014 10:36

They are sending a black box pinger.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 28/03/2014 10:39

"The potential flight path could be the subject of further refinement as investigations continued, Amsa said, adding that satellites would now focus on the new area.

Amsa said nine military aircraft would be scouring the area on Friday, with a civilian aircraft acting as a communications relay.

Five ships from China and one from Australia were also relocating to that area. One Chinese patrol ship was already at the scene, Amsa said."

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 28/03/2014 10:40

I think info is coming out either via Malaysia or via Australia, which makes sense, why should the Americans "say" anything?

member · 28/03/2014 10:42

AMSA tweeting one of the search planes have spotted something in the search area & is on it's way back to base. It will have imagery to be examined & there will need to be confirmation by ship which will not happen until tomorrow.

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Burmahere · 28/03/2014 10:43

I thought the same re US, not really anything to do with them so I guess they are keeping out of it (publicly, maybe they are offering support behind the scenes).

As it should be really.

GarlicMarchHare · 28/03/2014 10:43

The team looking into the flight simulator said they expected to finish today, didn't they? Wonder whether there was anything useful to be found.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 28/03/2014 10:44

WeLL the FBI are analysing the simulator and they are lending a pinger. Other people's aircraft are closer and just as good so why should they send a plane unless they have a specific one nearby.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 28/03/2014 10:55

The Facebook statement says that representatives on the international working group include, from th US, the FAA, the NTSB and Boeing.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 28/03/2014 10:58

www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=742713945773621&id=178566888854999

MerryMarigold · 28/03/2014 11:06

ok, ok. I'm sure the US are doing stuff. Just that relative to their size, influence, technology. And no, they don't need to 'say' anything themselves. INMARSAT's analysis was not released by the UK but was clearly from here and accredited. I haven't heard much of 'The US radar spotted this, or US satellite spotted that...', that's all. Whether the info is released by someone else or not. I am surprised given their presence that they have not contributed a lot more information. They are giving very little away, some could say obstructing.

And yes, they do have a lot to do with this, simply because they have large military presences in many of the areas the plane was in/ supposedly in plus rafts of satellites.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 28/03/2014 11:25

Inmarsat is a commercial satellite. I'm sure any military data is being shared only with a limited group and is being anonymised etc.

To fashion my own tin hat for a minute, if I thought a good way to get info on radar and satellite coverage made public, I might hijack a plane too.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 28/03/2014 11:29

Inmarsat is a commercial satellite. I'm sure any military data is being shared only with a limited group and is being anonymised etc.

To fashion my own tin hat for a minute, if I thought a good way to get info on radar and satellite coverage made public, I might hijack a plane too.

fflonkl · 28/03/2014 12:31

Merry one of the Malaysian opposition MPs today claimed the airforce and navy would "do better" if we were under opposition rule. He did not offer any reason why this was the case and has had to swiftly retract his statement.

Malaysia is not helped by having some pretty inept ministers and the opposition is not hugely better. However that said I really do think the government is doing its best.

fflonkl · 28/03/2014 12:35

Arrgghhh phone had mind of its own!!

This is a huge tragedy for Malaysia, we've never had anything even near this scale happen before yet I think we're bearing up with far greater dignity than China.

Also as has been pointed out the Americans are helping but all findings are being announced - rightly, I think - by Malaysia.

JKSLtd · 28/03/2014 13:06

Whilst I don't buy into the conspiracy theories honest I do wonder about the constant dribble of info, that's then retracted/ruled out/denied.

It must be so difficult (understatement!) being a relative of those on board. No one would ever have believed before this, that a big passenger plane could just go missing for so long.

Also, thinking about the crew - must be so difficult for the others who work for MAS - they must have flown with them in the past as I think crew get moved around? or had flights booked in with those missing that have had to be filled in by others. Not sure how big an airline it is?

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 28/03/2014 13:08

JKS, has there been info officially released by the Malaysians that has then been retracted?

JKSLtd · 28/03/2014 13:13

Well I meant more things that were leaked, denied by the Malaysians at press conferences, so ruled out by the press, then confirmed later on.

Just a sense of yo-yoing that I've got and I'm an unrelated just interested person on the other side of the world. If I've got that sense, that what must those missing relatives be feeling? Such a rollercoaster.

And I, like others, find it hard to believe they're really gone until the wreckage is found (not sure I believe anything will have been planted) - so how must the relatives feel? You'd want to be hope against all scientific evidence that your loved one is still alive, somehow, somewhere. Any piece of info that supports that, you'd jump on. They when it's denied or ruled out, it's another dip.

CharlieSierra · 28/03/2014 13:14

Whilst I don't buy into the conspiracy theories honest I do wonder about the constant dribble of info, that's then retracted/ruled out/denied

Trouble is, this is part of openly sharing available information isn't it - the alternative makes them look like they're holding things back. It really is an incredibly difficult situation to manage. I'm trying to quell any critical thoughts and believe everyone is doing their best in absolutely unprecedented circumstances.

AchyFox · 28/03/2014 13:22

1 o'clock news on R4 had an Australian oceanographer saying that based on ocean currents the new search area is not related to the debris found in the old search area.

Basically either the new or the old search area is correct, but they can't both contain debris of MH370.

Which begs the question, what reliance can be placed on any of the sightings so far (including the new search area), given that not a single piece has been retrieved ?

YNK · 28/03/2014 13:26

Tin hatter here!

I keep thinking about who would profit from this event!
Rothschild is now the sole heir to a valuable patent if the other 4 patent holders on the plane have sadly died.
Do we know of anyone else who would benefit?

I am also very suspicious of the secrecy over the cargo.

JKSLtd · 28/03/2014 13:27

I'm trying to quell any critical thoughts and believe everyone is doing their best in absolutely unprecedented circumstances.

Me too.

MerryMarigold · 28/03/2014 13:28

I'm sure any military data is being shared only with a limited group and is being anonymised etc...if I thought a good way to get info on radar and satellite coverage made public, I might hijack a plane too.

I don't think it would give a whole lot away to say, "a satellite spotted this..." or "radar picked up that...", particularly in areas where it is well known they have a presence. No need for fine details. What is weirder is not saying anything/ spotting anything.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 28/03/2014 13:35

"Which begs the question, what reliance can be placed on any of the sightings so far (including the new search area), given that not a single piece has been retrieved ?"

None. Nothing that had been sighted from satellites or a plane was ever confirmed as being part of the lost plane.

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