Missing Malaysia Air plane MH370 - Part 3

[KenAdams]

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Goldie, this is probably a really stupid question, and apologies if it has been asked upthread, but if it is a cyber hijack situation, would the hijacker have to have been on board the plane? Also, would the hijacker have been able to block all means of communication with the outside world so that the crew were unable to alert anyone? I'm thinking of a situation where the plane changes direction and the crew are powerless to do anything about it or to put out a mayday call. Is that feasible?

tajik... kurd... ubeki...

stan countries i think.

Nancy, with respect, and yell as much as you like if you like being rude, but this is the third thread, and it already has 500 messages. I have seen plenty of references and explanations to why mobile phones are not working over a certain height, but must have missed any references as to why a single phone left on could not give out a signal if still intact, and on the ground. Forgive me.

excuse me not even attempting to spell the prefixes correctly. what does stan mean anyway? land?

Why bother landing and loading with a dirty bomb, when it could be crashed into a nuclear reactor?

'Stan' is Farsi for land I think. That won me a pub quiz a veeerrryy long time ago.

This is definitely the final word I'll have on mobile phones.

If the plane landed near a phone mast and if the hijackers hadn't removed everyone's phones, then it's certain that the phones would connect with that phone mast. The phone's location would rapidly be known because 'they' would know which mast the phone ha dconnected to. The plane must have landed a week ago if it did land.

In that case, the plane and its passengers would have been located a week ago and we'd be seeing a happy ending on CNN.

So very, very clearly - as clear as can be - that is not the case.

"Why bother landing and loading with a dirty bomb, when it could be crashed into a nuclear reactor?"

Or into the side of an American nuclear powered aircraft carrier.

MOBILE PHONES

MOBILE PHONES

Please read this if you're still in doubt about the issue of relatives seemingly getting a ringing tone from relatives' mobiles. It's a deeply cruel quirk of the way networks relay calls & gets the hopes up of families trying to get through to missing loved ones. But sadly it's not the end handset that's physically ringing, just a sign of the network attempting to connect the call through the cellular network.

wonderfulengineering.com/the-mystery-behind-ringing-cell-phones-on-missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-uncovered/

Thank you Goldie, and that should indicate this has not happened. That is just what I was trying to get my head around.

Aliens. The only reasonable explanation.

"Goldie, this is probably a really stupid question, and apologies if it has been asked upthread, but if it is a cyber hijack situation, would the hijacker have to have been on board the plane? Also, would the hijacker have been able to block all means of communication with the outside world so that the crew were unable to alert anyone? I'm thinking of a situation where the plane changes direction and the crew are powerless to do anything about it or to put out a mayday call. Is that feasible?"

I've tried to give all the hints that I can that I cannot talk about such a scenario on an open forum. I really can't. You have to draw your own conclusions. Sorry.

x-post Goldie!

Goldie how long do you think they will search (on this scale) for? Surely it can't go on indefinitely.

Goldie, I'm so sorry. I've only recently started looking at this thread and haven't read the whole way through.

I'm quite surprised that no one (that i have seen anyway) has mentioned the Langoliers. Clearly the only rational explanation for a missing plane! Am I the only Stephen King fan?

"Goldie how long do you think they will search (on this scale) for? Surely it can't go on indefinitely."

Hard to know, really. How long will it take them to exhaust all the leads and new info? How will the Chinese react if the effort is scaled back? It'll be a few weeks until they scale back, I'd have thought. But it's quite an unknown situation.

Heh. Quint sorry I wasn't being rude, I was laughing because it just gets funny after a while when you read on various threads and various fora the same question (I asked it myself in the first few days so also guilty!).
RTFT is a useful acronym we use elsewhere for mumsnet threads because people so often don't RTFT on this site is all.

Goldie I've just seen this posted on Twitter.

The man who wrote this article said that he is a pilot, and believes that the plane turned towards the closest airport.

Do you think that theory could be true?

"Goldie, I'm so sorry. I've only recently started looking at this thread and haven't read the whole way through."

No bother - but if you get chance just take a look back a few pages. There are two things I've been asked questions on that I can't talk about. this is one. Cockpit security is another. Both for obvious reasons...

Goldie sorry to add another question to your ever levels of patience but if hypoxia was used by whomever to kill people would it be just like going to sleep and therefore fairly swift? Or is it much more painful and prolonged than that? I truly hope that there will be a happy conclusion for the passengers but the worry wort in me keeps revisiting this question

My thoughts are with all the families and friends of those involved

Question about the 'corridors' that are being referred to. Lines on a map? How big are these corridors ? How have they been able to identify them so precisely ? If the plane is on landcwithin one of those corridors will it eventually be found ?

I like that pilot POV - the simple explanation
on board fire

Hypoxia is usually from decompression I think - I don't think you can choose to decompress an aircraft. I assume you could change the gas cylinders to a low oxygen mix but that seems like another level of complication.

"Do you think that theory could be true?"

If the Malaysian Prime Minister had not said on Saturday night that it was a definite criminal act, then yes, This would be my second guess for a technical failure (after the decompression/hypoxia theory).

But an aeroplane on fire doesn't stay airborne for 7 hours. It disintegrates. So the on-board fire destroying the comms equipment doesn't hold water - Swissair MD-11 crash comes to mind.