Spero
What is going to be interesting is if and/or when transcripts of judgments do become more widely available will the media report more responsibly? My guess is no.
That is what I said on another forum. As a tweeter said, never let facts to get in the way of a good story. It matters little if the story is nearly all fake.
John Hemming
All the essential components of the story are true. She was a visitor. The state imprisoned her, forced her to have a caesarean and put her baby up for adoption.
Ok. Last attempt. I want to be extremely naive and think that someone who’s an MP can manage to read my simple English.
a) International visitors or residents are subject to the British Laws whilst on British soil. It doesn’t matter where they are from and other consular legalbabble.
b) See above. If you have a mental health disease, you’re subject to the Mental Health Act. Enough said.
c) American and Italian authorities forced her to have a c-section. Why should British ones act differently? Explain.
d) The other two children have been put in somebody else’s care because she can’t care for them. Why should British lawyers act differently? Explain.
There are plenty of aspects of the whole incident that are plainly wrong and as the Rome court said contrary to law. We are supposed to follow aspects of international law.
First, the Rome court 'said' that and then ‘archived’ the order. Are you familiar with the meaning of “to archive”?
Second, you broke a few Italian laws with a post. So, in your opinion:
Does the British government have to abide by international laws but you’re strangely exempt? Please, immediately inform British PM David Cameron about it because I don’t think he knows about your absolutely privileged situation.
The Italians say it is against the law, the slovaks say it is against the law. In our secret courts, however, the opinion of the local authou with its adoption targets is what counts.
The Italians now know you broke the law. I don’t think you’ll be arrested any time soon though, because they have no jurisdiction here. Courts are secret in Italy too and nobody is making a fuss about it.
Madamedefarge: it is not you I need to convince, but those reading the thread seeing that those opposing my view normally resort to abuse rather than logic.
You might need to phone the Telegraph again for that. Because the logic of the rest of the online world is plainly against your views, including one million of tweets all over the planet. And I consider your ignorance towards Italian customs, citizens and laws as an insult. Therefore, you’re actually resorting to abuse as well. From my point of view, of course.
Oddly enough I take the view that human beings in Scotland are much like human beings in England. One could, for example, consider Scotland as a "control experiment"
What an assertion! I must send this to Alex Salmond. Maybe it can be of use for the independence debate and it can be entered in the 670-page booklet they wrote for the YES campaign. I think that a more discriminating thing against the Scots had never been written... yet. Honestly.
NanaNina
Awwww Big hug! 
Yes, still here darling. MN deleted my posts and they made the right decision, because I lost it there. They kindly emailed me. I just had to focus a bit more on my uni module, assignment deadline is barely a 4 weeks away. I couldn’t stay here anymore, it felt as an useless exercise. In the end, to reply or to engage in discussion with a certain poster who clutches (sigh) at straws all time despite the evidence shows he’s wrong.. Well, it is pointless.
YoniManotopeia
Youseem to have misunderstood mypoint re Haringey JH. I Was pointing out that they seemed to have increased their adoption rate by getting more adopters, not more children.
He has a particular talent of filtering the things he doesn’t like, he cuts them off from documents. You’ll get used to that.