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Zimmerman found 'not guilty' of Trayvon Martin's murder

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Kveta · 14/07/2013 03:25

m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23304198

Bloody hell.

How utterly crap for Martin's family and friends :( and how dangerous for race relations in Florida :(

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ChrissieTay · 14/07/2013 16:30

yamsareyammy I'm not stating that Martin's past criminal history is relevant per se, I'm saying his family are potraging him to be an angel! Therefore, this gives the media more ammunition to back up the prosecution against Zimmerman in the public eye! I feel very saddened for Zimmerman actually - reading his brothers Twitter, the death threats they're getting are ridiculous!

Chanatan · 14/07/2013 16:35

You seem to be using Trayvon Martin,s history as justification for what Zimmerman did.
And lets face it,the Zimmermans are no angels,there is a little matter of a fraud trial coming up.

yamsareyammy · 14/07/2013 16:45

Why is Trayvon Martins past history relevant at all, ChrissieTay?

HokeyCokeyPigInAPokey · 14/07/2013 16:52

He was their son and I am sure they loved him no matter what he had done and of course they would want people to know positive things about him.
But for christ sake let it go, what he did in his life had no bearing on why he was shot.

ChrissieTay · 14/07/2013 16:58

Chanatan & yamsareyammy - I've just answered this before and can't be bothered writing it again

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ChrissieTay · 14/07/2013 17:02

If Zimmerman had been your partner / brother / father and some thug with an attitude starts laying punches and bashing his head on the concrete floor, would you not want him to self-defend?? If I was in that situation, I'd shoot aswell, as I think many of us would !

Chanatan · 14/07/2013 17:07

The colour of my skin has no bearing on my opinions but that statement from you makes me think you are racist.

HokeyCokeyPigInAPokey · 14/07/2013 17:09

Actually i am white, you are a racist.

Mixxy · 14/07/2013 17:10

First of all Dora Trayvon did not have a criminal record, let alone a record for a 'string of burglaries'. If you can't get even the most basic of your racist spouting correct, there isn't much hope for you. (Not that anyone with an IQ above 90 really listens).

Secondly, Zimmerman is the one with the criminal record. Two for domestic assault, speeding, and struggling with an officer. There is an untried case of molestation alleged against Zimmerman.

Now, back to the Daily Mail with you.

HokeyCokeyPigInAPokey · 14/07/2013 17:12

Oh and I have reported your post.

Chanatan · 14/07/2013 17:15

I wouldnt have bothered Hokey,let everybody see her for what she is.

yamsareyammy · 14/07/2013 17:15

I'm white too.
Maybe my use of the words per se, and yours, are not the same.

Chanatan · 14/07/2013 17:17

And for the record I,m white too.

yamsareyammy · 14/07/2013 17:23

Past criminal history - he doesnt appear to have been previously charged with anything, whereas Zimmerman had. Though again, not sure if Zimmermans past criminal history had any bearing on this case.

Else , that too would mean, that anyone with a charged criminal past, is guilty of anything else that comes to court.

LittleSporksBigSpork · 14/07/2013 17:43

I'm not black (lightskinned Metis). I am from the States though and have family there. The news has been highly followed, along with the case of Marissa Alexander, the Florida Black woman who got 20 years for firing a shot at a wall that hurt no one to scare off an abusive husband who admits he was there to harm her.

Prison in America is highly racialized as are stopping procedures. Ignoring race is to be blind to the problems such as that the racial profiling that you spoke of earlier gives no better results and White people are far more likely to have contraband than people other groups because we've all been shown that they're more likely to get away with it . Britain is better though racism is a problem in the UK's police force as well.

ChrissieTay · 14/07/2013 18:09

HokeyCokey I am not actually - let LL Cool J take me to bed anyday Wink

But I also don't need to justify this to u...

What I find quite ironic is that none of you have actually answered my question - Where is / was the racial indication within this attack ???!

ChrissieTay · 14/07/2013 18:11

Wasn't Zimmerman involved in some charity work for a black friend / neighbour a few tears ago? Would he seriously have done that if he was a racist ??!

Card - played - much !!Confused

yamsareyammy · 14/07/2013 18:12

ChrissieTay you say he was a thug with an attitude. Where do you get that idea from?

I am not personally sure there was a racist indication.
Wasnt there. Dont know the 2 people at all.

yamsareyammy · 14/07/2013 18:14

People can hide behind charity work sometimes.
especially celebs

HokeyCokeyPigInAPokey · 14/07/2013 18:14

www.salon.com/2013/07/14/how_power_works_in_america/singleton/

Can't link as on phone, interesting reading...

staffie99 · 14/07/2013 18:15

I suppose it's a bad time to point out that the only evidence of racism in this case with any credibility is Trayvon Martin referring to Zimmerman as a "creepy ass cracker".

LittleSporksBigSpork · 14/07/2013 18:19

Cracker originated from the term whipcracker, as in a slavedriver.

ChrissieTay · 14/07/2013 18:20

staffie99 - I'm referring to the whole case - there are protestors all over America right now claiming racism - accusing Zimmerman, the Jury, Judge, Police etc of being racist due to giving him the not guilty verdict!

What I said was where is any indication that Z was actually racist and it was actually Martin who used the racist slur! Not that am saying Martin was racist, by no means I'm not but where / how is your argument justified??

HokeyCokeyPigInAPokey · 14/07/2013 18:25

Is Zimmerman racist, only he knows.

Would he have reacted the same way if he had encountered someone white that night, we don't know.

Did the police handle this case so badly because it was just another black youth, who knows.

We can only draw our own conclusions. I personally think it would have been a very different outcome if that poor young man had been white.

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