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Zimmerman found 'not guilty' of Trayvon Martin's murder

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Kveta · 14/07/2013 03:25

m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23304198

Bloody hell.

How utterly crap for Martin's family and friends :( and how dangerous for race relations in Florida :(

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JessieMcJessie · 15/07/2013 11:04

No, Boomba, Trayvon was killed in an act of legal self defence by a man whom he attacked, using force that was wildly disproportionate to the verbal challenge made of him.

Boomba · 15/07/2013 11:06

yadda yadda...its easy to make it sound so reasonable isnt it
its bollocks

JessieMcJessie · 15/07/2013 11:07

Actually I should modify that - one is not proven innocent, so the correct phrase is that the State was unable to prove his guilt beyond reasonale doubt. And the public should respect that.

Boomba · 15/07/2013 11:07

did you read my link to 'The Root'

it goes on and on and on......its always rationalised

Openyourmind · 15/07/2013 11:09

Zimmerman isn't white.

Or am I missing something?

JessieMcJessie · 15/07/2013 11:09

So Boomba, you don't believe that Martin attacked first?

Boomba · 15/07/2013 11:14

I think Trayvon was a child that went out to get some sweets. On his way home from the shops he was followed by a grown man. I think he was totally justified to take action against the man. If my children are followed by a man, I would support them in any action they thought was necessary to get them safe. The man then shot the child with the gun he was carrying when he decided to follow the child

Trayvon defended himself. Zimmerman was the aggressor

Boomba · 15/07/2013 11:15

Zimmerman poses a threat to black children and men. He has been told his actions were justified. He should be in prison to keep innocent children safe

Kiriwawa · 15/07/2013 11:17

If there had been a massive fight, Martin would have had injuries. He had a small graze on one knuckle, not at all consistent with some of the wild allegations on this thread

ChrissieTay · 15/07/2013 11:18

Oh Boomba get off the bandwagon and put down the (race) card - If my children started laying into a man just for following them I'd be very disappointed in their 'thug' like actions to be honest Hmm

Boomba · 15/07/2013 11:19

fuck you ChrissieTAy

ChrissieTay · 15/07/2013 11:19

Martin was only yards from home - instead of acting like the 'tough' guy, why did he not just run instead of approaching trouble ?

ChrissieTay · 15/07/2013 11:20

Ha ha @ Boomba Wink Ouch!!

SpecialAgentTattooedQueen · 15/07/2013 11:21

Because Fight:Flight kicked in.

We never know how we'll react in those situations, 'thug' Hmm at people who use that phrase to describe anyone btw or 'non thug.'

Boomba · 15/07/2013 11:21

im glad you think its a laughing matter

JessieMcJessie · 15/07/2013 11:21

So slamming Zimmean's head repeatedly against the concrete was necessary to get Trayvon Martin safe? Zimmerman was not brandishing a gun at him and threatening to kill him. He had already called the police, for goodness sake- he was hardly going to murder a kid while he waited for them. The worst that could have happened would have been that Trayvon was arrested by the police and been released without charge when it became clear that Zimmerman's suspicions were unfounded. To "get himself safe" all Martin had to do was talk politely to Zimmerman and the police and tell the truth about what he was doing. Going on the attack was precisely the opposite of "getting himself safe".

yamsareyammy · 15/07/2013 11:23

Agreed, Open. I find it curious that people keep saying that.

SpecialAgentTattooedQueen · 15/07/2013 11:29

Zimmerman was not brandishing a gun at him and threatening to kill him

He didn't need to be for fight/flight to kick in. It's a human response we cannot control. Someone following you is a situation where that adrenalin rush can kick in. I think he should have walked home, but I can't judge someone based on a chemical surge.

Unfortunately he was correct for being uncomfortable of this man, as he is a murderer and a racist.

ChrissieTay · 15/07/2013 11:31

Boomba - I don't at all actually, I'm laughing at you for being so narrow-minded and judgemental towarfs Zimmerman as in calling him a racist!

You didn't answer my question - what backs up your comment regarding him being a known racist?

ChrissieTay · 15/07/2013 11:33

JessieMc - Agreed ...

Question for all you in favour of Martin - Was it acceptable for him to bash Z's head against concrete and break his nose??? Hmm

Boomba · 15/07/2013 11:34

you are advocating a child confronting an adult that is following them?????

YY...is that the advice you give your children? if you are being followed by a strange man....talk to him politely and justify why you have been to the shops...and why you find it necessary to be walking around out of doors????

Or maybe it is Zimmerman who should have identified himself and talked politely to the child he was following? Or maybe he should have taken the police advice to stop following the child? Or maybe he should stop following children like the creepy fucker that he is?

ChrissieTay · 15/07/2013 11:35

SpecialAgent - Would you not call somebody bashing somebody else's head a thug?? Would you not call somebody knowingly approaching trouble a thug ?? I'm sure you would actually if your child had been in Z's shoes! Hmm

Boomba · 15/07/2013 11:36

your question has been answered a hundred times over on this thread. but like i said, it is probably something you will never understand because you are prejudice

ChrissieTay · 15/07/2013 11:37

The advice I would (and do) give to my boys is NOT to talk to strangers nor approach them and if trouble does arise, either try and escape the situation as best you can, or as a last resort, use self-defense techniques, ie if you are hit/kicked/punched and cannot run away to safety...

CogitoErgoSometimes · 15/07/2013 11:38

"it is misguided and in my view, wilfully disregarding the facts to its own ends"

That's the trouble with badly written and unfair laws. They make people angry. The black population of the USA is too often on the wrong end of these bad laws. I'm not going to point a finger at them for wilfully disregarding the facts in one isolated case. As with all landmark events it has struck a nerve and the authorities will have to deal with the fallout.

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