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Spy scandal - anyone bothered by the US government sweeping through *everything* we do online..?

231 replies

edam · 10/06/2013 22:17

Seems Uncle Sam can just hoover up data from Microsoft, Google, Facebook, Apple, Youtube and the rest. US govt is busy reassuring Americans this 'only' applies to foreigners. Like us.

One boffin interviewed on Channel Four news said they may look for keywords like 'Iran' - so if you've ever commented on a thread about Iran, people working for that nice Mr Obama may have been watching...

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mathanxiety · 11/06/2013 22:12

You can tell it's democracy because you know about it, NicholasTeakozy.

Upfront is not an accurate description of how affairs were conducted. Even the briefest of glances at incidents like the Robert McCartney murder will tell you that. The McCartney sisters who visited the White House no longer live in the Short Strand. They were driven out.

There were informers and phone tapping and all sorts of shenanigans. Lots of scores were settled under the guise of keeping the ranks closed. Vigilantes from both sides were not one bit bothered by legal niceties. Lots of people were too intimidated to utter a peep against the armed men running their communities. Meanwhile the people who were sick and tired of the whole thing didn't get heard and couldn't go to the security forces out of fear for their lives.

willyoulistentome · 11/06/2013 22:15

Well I couldn't believe that was in the news. It was something I would have assumed was going on anyway. I can't understand why the whistle blower guy was so surprised. How else do you expect they try to identify terrorist cells or stop plots to blow us up?

HabbaDabbaDoo · 11/06/2013 22:22

Ilikethebreeze - weird challenge. If you (or the NSA) want to go into Search and look at my past MN posts then you have my blessing.

HabbaDabbaDoo · 11/06/2013 22:29

Ilikethebreeze - you searched MN looking at my posts for the past month? Shock I feel so violated.

Grin Grin Why would you think that I would care? Do you wrap tin foil around your head so that the NSA satellites can't read your mind?

Ilikethebreeze · 12/06/2013 09:18

you have a dp
you have a dd in year 8
you and your partner both worked when you had babies
the babies were bottle fed
you use about 80gb a month
you possible had a row with perma

Ilikethebreeze · 12/06/2013 09:19

I am enjoying it, so off to find more

HabbaDabbaDoo · 12/06/2013 09:58

Please please stop. I don't want a bunch of anonymous strangers to know how many GB of data that I use in a month or that I have a DP and DCs. Grin

I originally posted the above for all to read so I'm a bit Confused as to why you think that I would care that you reposted it again.

You gotta love some of the characters that one finds on MN.

Ilikethebreeze · 12/06/2013 10:00
Grin But going to carry on as I am finding it interesting.
Ilikethebreeze · 12/06/2013 10:02

You dont get the control you see, just like we dont get to control the USA Government.

Ilikethebreeze · 12/06/2013 10:04

If you genuinely want me to stop, you need to say or convince me that it bothers you.

HabbaDabbaDoo · 12/06/2013 10:31

Yes I don't get to control what weird people do with their time.

If I didn't want MN to know that I have a DD in Year 8 for example I wouldn't have posted it in the first place. So i still don't understand why you are so smug and pleased with yourself just because you reposted the info again. .

Crowler · 12/06/2013 10:34

Habba, I think you're missing the point. Surely it's worrying in a sort of general way that huge amounts of personal data are being stored. You raise the rationalization, I think, that it's so huge that what are they going to do with it?

But what if YOU become a suspect.

Are you assuming you won't become a suspect because you don't fit some ethnic demographic? Because that makes you complicit in profiling, if that's the source of your comfort. And profiling is just stupid. I hear stupid people all the time saying, why should these poor old white ladies be subjected to searches at the airport when there are all these really obvious brown young men walking around without reproach? How hard could it be to find one 55 year old white lady who is in desperate need of money?

Are you assuming you won't become a suspect because you're a law-abiding citizen? How foolish. You have no idea what kind of activities would put you on a watch list. You could raise a flag for booking a one-way ticket. Or returning from holiday in a middle-eastern country and depositing leftover currency in your bank account. Or going to a protest (although I doubt your the type).

I'm actually shocked that there are people who aren't bothered by this.

HabbaDabbaDoo · 12/06/2013 10:48

Xposted.

Please carry on.

Ilikethebreeze · 12/06/2013 11:01

You think music is for the middle classes
You get the class of some posters wrong
You have various arguments with a number of posters
You know a handful of Oxbridge alumni
You like the flintstones
You slept with the postman

Ilikethebreeze · 12/06/2013 11:02

I dont expect spies to get every detail right! Grin

HabbaDabbaDoo · 12/06/2013 11:04

What reaction do you expect from me? Fairly boring information. Plus if I didn't want you are MN to know this info then I wouldn't have posted it in the first place.

HabbaDabbaDoo · 12/06/2013 11:05

.. you or MN to know ...

Ilikethebreeze · 12/06/2013 11:06

Unfortuneately for me, your posts only seem to go back a month.
Will have to do more digging.

HabbaDabbaDoo · 12/06/2013 11:10

If you was able to tell me how much money I have in my bank account I would go 'shit me. That is great detective work' .

But all you've done is gone into Search and cut and pasted boring info that was meant for general consumption in the first place. I still don't get why you feel so smug or clever about it.

Ilikethebreeze · 12/06/2013 11:26

You dont know who I am.

HabbaDabbaDoo · 12/06/2013 11:29

Why would I care?

Ilikethebreeze · 12/06/2013 11:33

I am your next door neighbour and I have your bank details from your bin.

HabbaDabbaDoo · 12/06/2013 11:37

I shred all my personal stuff.

Ilikethebreeze · 12/06/2013 11:46

Why bother?
You dont care. You have already said that.

And that makes no difference whatsoever to a USA spy.

HabbaDabbaDoo · 12/06/2013 11:53

There are several valid points to be made about the spying but yours are kind of stupid.

Was it you that compared the spying to some cop standing outside your window looking at you undressing?

Classic MN.