Speedboat accident in Padstow

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I don't know if the mother was a MNer, but I am hoping she pulls through with her other DCs and so sorry to hear she lost her husband and daughter, Emily. I know words are useless, but I am thinking of them. It's all so sad and awful.

I agree. This thread is 'In the News' because the tragedy was in the news. It's not the place to bang on about how avoidable it was - unless you actually want to appear callous.

Why the fuck aren't threads started about drink driving every frigging week?
Start them then.
I won't stop you- I wouldn't dream of trying to control a public forum by criticising you for doing so.

A small minority on here are determined to believe the focus here is one particular family. It isn't. It's a bigger issue than that.

Anyway- here's the thing. If MNHQ believe its best to give this thread another title, such as 'marine safety' or whatever, then I'm sure they can find a way of doing that. And as always, posts which don't comply with their rules will be deleted. But I am happy to leave it to them to manage the forum; it becomes a nonsense (whatever the issue under discussion ) when individuals try to dictate to other posters

Janey you say this is about more than just this particular family but the thread is about precisely that. All we are asking for is to distance the discussion from this poor family - perhaps on a new thread in a different section, with a different title.

It started as a thread focusing on a specific incident but discussion has broadened considerably since then. As I say, I'm sure MNHQ have the wherewithal to rename the thread or create a new one from after the first few posts onwards if they agree with you

janey68 I completely agree. I for one have increased my awareness of powerboat safety ( it's about to be relevant to me) because of this thread.

I hate when people here try to dictate the way a discussion goes or try to attribute motives to others' contributions that just aren't there.

You know what. I reckon it's all down to our upbringing.

You see, this topic was started and focused on an imaginable tragedy. Most people come on to this topic to sort of "give respects" in the IT age that we live in. We come on here to, in a very small way, "grieve" and when we can help to knit wooly blankets and give financial support too sometimes.

Then there are people who come on here to disrupt and stop the flow of caring and kindness.

If only those people who are so passionate about their cause would just start their own thread then we might pay attention. I'm sure they have a case to promote however on this thread is not the place.

The most respectful thing that could happen now is if this thread would just stop. I'm not coming back here - I've had my say.

"Accidents, murder, illness can happen to any family. Sit back and imagine how you would feel having your personal tragedy pulled apart and speculated about by strangers with the luxury of distance."

Actually, out of respect for the family, there has been very little speculation on this thread. I suspect if all the sailors on this thread wrote down what they do strongly suspect happened, it would send you into orbit.

And IMO this In The News thread is about more than one family now, so trying to close down the conversation is unreasonable.

Oh please! There is no respect for the family from some of the posters on this thread. It's not 'respect' which has kept them from speculating. It's the fact that it will be deleted - as has already happened.

Just to reiterate Rowan's post from over a week ago and Olivia's post from last night;

we would remind you that there is a grieving family behind this story
Thanks kindly
MNHQ

Not much common sense on here sometimes. Who said a life policy was about wealth? Most men with families to provide for have them as standard. Similarly, men in high powered positions often have what is called Key Man insurance. However tragic the circumstances, insurers do not pay out willy nilly, hence my point about the facts surrounding the death needing to be checked.

Well said. All I, and others, have done is raise entirely reasonable factual points against a tide of sentiment. I have some nautical knowlege, but have nevertheless refrained from speculating on what I assume may have happened. However, it would be nice to think that posters on this thread are intelligent enough to want a proper discussion rather than waves of faux love. As one poster has already said, it may be that many holidaymakers reading this will take greater precautions this summer if they take to the water. Time for people to get over their piety and stop with the insinuations.

Third times a charm eh Teddy? Or not. Seriously do you want somebody to talk you through namechanging?

By a tide of sentment you mean compassion for the bereaved? I'll happily put my hand up to that.

The only thing vile here is your post. Acquaintance with the Milligan family does not give you a right to try to shut down what has been a very balanced discussion with some really helpful knowlege being imparted from the sailors in the community. Nor does it give you right to judge other people who wish to have this discussion. I have not seen one post that has offered anything other than the utmost sympathy for the family involved. This is a valid safety topic that needs to be discussed.

I'm sorry. I don't understand a word of your message. Am interested why you keep picking on me though, when dozens of others are saying the same thing. Don't worry about it.

No, it isn't our job to pass judgement - as so many posters on here are doing against those who are trying to get the safety issues discussed. That IS our job. I for one don't wanting to be swimming in Cornwall this year when some out of control speedboat comes powering towards me.

Try this - when you keep posting agreeing with yourself you look really daft and like you were planning to namechange and engineer agreement with yourself. Is that the impression you intended to give?

To my mind northern the only good thing about this thread is the silent chuckle I have every time teddy has a name change fail.

Teddy - speculating on life insurance policies is nothing to do with promoting public safety and to my mind only shows a grisly fascination with other people's sorrow. And we're not showing faux love - it's showing respect, sorrow, sympathy and empathy: traits many people on this thread don't seem to have much of.

It's really intriguing me - the posting style where you post something, and then instantly post agreeing with yourself.

I couldn't agree more - it is a very interesting posting style.

Discussion about a hypothetical insurance policy connected to a specific family is distasteful and unecessary.
Discussion about the fact that from all the evidence, this was an avoidable tragedy is absolutely not.