Speedboat accident in Padstow

[LittleAbruzzenBear]

I don't know if the mother was a MNer, but I am hoping she pulls through with her other DCs and so sorry to hear she lost her husband and daughter, Emily. I know words are useless, but I am thinking of them. It's all so sad and awful.

[MrsDoomsPatterson]

That poor family, poor, poor family.

What an utterly shit awful thing to happen. How could anyone judge any of them for what happened.

[frissonpink]

Although in anyone else is offended by my post, I shall ask for it to be deleted.

[TSSDNCOP]

Good. You might want to try proof reading with yourself as the recipient in future. Horrid.

[ItsYonliMe]

This whole thread should be deleted. It's dreadful and there by the grace ...
We all take our children in cars - that is by far the most dangerous thing we can ever do. The chances of being killed in a road traffic accident are hundreds and hundreds of times greater than being killed by anything else.

I would like this thread to go away and not cause any more grief to anyone who loves this family - and I'm sure there must be many.

[ItsYonliMe]

And Frisson and teddy and gypsy who have written such callous posts need to go and think about exactly what they have said. Shame on both of you.

[TSSDNCOP]

I totally agree Yoni. How can laying out anonymous, judgemental bile help? I'm reporting to MN because it seems to me many posts conflict with the spirit of the site.

[5318008]

agreed, it ought to go

(boggling at teddyandgypsy sockpuppet fail not once but TWICE. Rookie error)

[DreamsTurnToGoldDust]

God, just read this thread. That poor family, such an awful awful accident and this thread is just horrible and the opposite of what mumsnet is all about. Hopefully MN will delete it.

[frissonpink]

I don't believe anyone on this thread has written anything callous or spiteful. A lot of people have pointed out how sailing/boating works and to be honest, it is something that a lot of ppl have no knowledge about and there is little/no regulation.

Possibly finding out about the importance of the killcord, and how it works, may mean someone this weekend who normally does away with it, may attach it.

For that, I will take a battering - if it stops any further tragedy.

However, completely agree I should have read through and thought about how it might sound to someone else however. This is a very emotive issue for the family and anyone that knew her. For that I apologise wholeheartedly. Quite often the written word can come across with meaning that is never intended.

This thread may well have run it's course though, you're completely right.

[southpacific]

I think the posts by frisson were in no way spiteful or snide and could indeed help prevent another such tragedy which it seems clear to me was the intention behind the posts.

[janey68]

It's absolutely NOT spiteful or callous to point out that the actions here were irresponsible. If for no other reason, because its purely luck that no other swimmers or sailors were killed or maimed. People clearly need their awareness raised of the issue and the lack of legislation surrounding it.

It's entirely compatible to make that point and to also feel desperately sorry for the family.

[janey1234]

Teddy how dare you say that you don't care how much fun this man was on a night out; you know that was not what I meant by my post at all. You'll also notice I talked about how much he talked about his family and clearly utterly adored them, but you helpfully chose to overlook that point.

The poor poor man is dead, as is his daughter and his family members desperately ill. People may or may not be responsible, as is so often the case with accidents (whether in a boat, car, the home - anywhere). Either way it is not our job to judge and pass judgement.

[OliviaMMumsnet]

Goodness me
Just to reiterate Rowan's post from over a week ago that we would remind you that there is a grieving family behind this story
Thanks kindly
MNHQ

[FasterStronger]

Yes Olivia, but if no one learns from this, this tragedy will happen again.

[Lazyjaney]

Deleting this thread is just censoring a basic truth here which needs pointing out if anything is to change, and more lives are not to be lost.

I suspect those of us who are sailors have a better grasp of what happened here, and are possibly more frustrated because we see it repeated every weekend on the water.

[NorthernLurker]

Some of you really need to get over yourselves. Seriously - you think you can bitch about this tragedy as much as you like because 'lessons need to be learnt'. Yup, sure.

[janey68]

How can anyone possibly say no good can come of these thread? This is a public forum with lots of traffic... It's exactly the sort of place where a safety issue like this needs to be raised and discussed. And I can't see what is 'bitching ' about stating that this is awful for the family involved , but it was avoidable and also could have affected other families too.
The thread is not about trying to make the family feel worse than they already do: tbh I would imagine nothing anyone says is going to make them feel worse than they do

[expatinscotland]

Poor family. The father and one of the children are dead. The mother has lost one of her legs and the little boy's is mangled. They will grieve this day forever.

[janey1234]

Indeed expat. It's horrendous.

[NorthernLurker]

We don't need this thread to 'raise awareness'. This tragedy has been national headlines - mostly without the judgemental 'I would have done do much better as a parent' bullshit that mumsnetters are so fond of. There IS bitchiness here - in all the references to the families wealth for a start.
Janey - try telling Mrs Milligan that her suffering was in your view avoidable and see if that does indeed make her feel worse. This thread is for hand rubbing and it's snide and hideous.

[NorthernLurker]

That was addressed to janey68 not janey1234 btw.

[janey1234]

Well said northern all round. And yes, I hadn't noticed the references to wealth - what have life policies got to do with anything?

[lborolass]

Tbh I think it's unavoidable that wealth will be mentioned as for most of us having a speedboat is outside our means and a day out of this kind isn't a normal event in our lives. It may well have been quite usual for this poor family but it's not a surprise that it colours peoples views a little.

I'm not saying it's justified but I can see why some posters have brought the subject up.