Oscar Pistorious Pt3

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Hope no one else has started this.

R250k is hardly a lot for OP after we just heard how much he is worth.

Sky news just saying they have heard bail has risen to R1million - unconfirmed

Thought it was 1m rand - with an immediate cash payment of 100,000rand.

About £74,000

Roughly £75,000

Not a huge amount then

Will be banned from drinking alcohol and will have to hand over his firearms. Surely they will all have been seized already!

R1mill is a LOT of money for South Africans, clearly not for OP though but it's a hell of a lot better than R250k

Conditions: Banned from alcohol, hand over firearms and passport, avoid his home.

Stay away from witnesses.

BAIL CONDITIONS (From Guardian feed)
1m rand is £73,750.

He says bail is fixed at 1m rand: a cash amount of 100,000 rand to be deposited where the accused will be detained, plus a further 900,000 rand as a gurantee and surety.

Upon payment of the 100,000 rand he must be released with the following conditions:

? He appears in court on 4 June at 8.30am.

? He surrenders all passports.

? He refrains from applying for any passports.

? He refrains from entering any airport.

? He surrenders all firearms.

? He refrains from possessing any firearms.

`? He refrains from talking to any witnesses for the prosecution.

? He will have a probation officer and correctional official from the date of release until the conclusion of the case.

? He shall inform the official all his movements and ask for permission for any journeys outside Pretoria.

? He shall give them a phone number and must be contactable day and night.

? He must not be charged with an offence of violence against women.

? He must not use drugs or alcohol.

? He must not return to his home and not make contact with any residents of his estate except the Stander family.

I feel quite strongly, for no logical reason, that OP should pay bail for/help our the guy in that article that someone posted on the other thread....the paraplegic who is being denied basic care in prison whilst he awaits trial/cant afford bail

Who are the Stander family?

That would be great BAD - dream on though I reckon!

Can Amnesty International not take on his case? How do they become aware of people who need their help?

The Stander family might be relatives of Burry Stander, a mountain biker who was friends with OP. Burry was killed in a road accident quite recently.

John Stander was the first person Oscar called.

From his affidavit:
""I battled to get her out of the toilet and pulled her into the bathroom. I phoned Johan Stander ("Stander") who was involved in the administration of the estate and asked him to phone the ambulance."

Jeez, I step away to deal with a situation and finally gets to point 5 minutes after I left

I can't help but feel it was the right result though...at least for this stage of proceedings.

Is it usual for someone charged with murder to get bail?

Stander is the head of security on the Estate I think

Not for premeditated murder diddl although under the exceptional circumstances clause there is scope (and almost certainly past precedent) for bail to be given - it's not as if OP has been given bail just because he's OP.

No I wasn't thinking it's because he was OP.

I thought it was yet to be determined if it was premeditated?

I suppose I just find it odd that you can shoot someone & then be free to await the trial!

Diddl I believe it is because, even though there is no doubt he killed her, there is a chance he could be found guilty of a lesser charge that carries a non-custodial sentence (i.e. if they believe his account that is was an accident and he killed her by mistake and it was a reasonable mistake to make).

I agree it is odd - but it is a possibility in SA

I agree diddl, I find it odd and somewhat depressing, as in life is cheap.

Although I find OP's account of the evening well dubious, I did feel a sense of relief he got bail. Purely because the jails are so incredibly inhumane, debased and horrendous, I don't think ANYONE should have to go there. Not even really bad bad people should be kept in those conditions in a civilised society.

I'm keeping the faith that justice will prevail eventually.