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Oscar Pistorious Pt3

739 replies

bunchamunchycrunchycarrots · 22/02/2013 13:33

Hope no one else has started this.

OP posts:
BlingBubbles · 22/02/2013 14:46

R250k is hardly a lot for OP after we just heard how much he is worth.

Sky news just saying they have heard bail has risen to R1million - unconfirmed

EllieArroway · 22/02/2013 14:46

Thought it was 1m rand - with an immediate cash payment of 100,000rand.

EllieArroway · 22/02/2013 14:47

About £74,000

YellowFlyingPineapple · 22/02/2013 14:47

Roughly £75,000

applepieinthesky · 22/02/2013 14:49

Not a huge amount then

applepieinthesky · 22/02/2013 14:50

Will be banned from drinking alcohol and will have to hand over his firearms. Surely they will all have been seized already!

BlingBubbles · 22/02/2013 14:51

R1mill is a LOT of money for South Africans, clearly not for OP though but it's a hell of a lot better than R250k

ChocHobNob · 22/02/2013 14:51

Conditions: Banned from alcohol, hand over firearms and passport, avoid his home.

ChocHobNob · 22/02/2013 14:52

Stay away from witnesses.

BeCool · 22/02/2013 14:57

BAIL CONDITIONS (From Guardian feed)
1m rand is £73,750.

He says bail is fixed at 1m rand: a cash amount of 100,000 rand to be deposited where the accused will be detained, plus a further 900,000 rand as a gurantee and surety.

Upon payment of the 100,000 rand he must be released with the following conditions:

? He appears in court on 4 June at 8.30am.

? He surrenders all passports.

? He refrains from applying for any passports.

? He refrains from entering any airport.

? He surrenders all firearms.

? He refrains from possessing any firearms.

`? He refrains from talking to any witnesses for the prosecution.

? He will have a probation officer and correctional official from the date of release until the conclusion of the case.

? He shall inform the official all his movements and ask for permission for any journeys outside Pretoria.

? He shall give them a phone number and must be contactable day and night.

? He must not be charged with an offence of violence against women.

? He must not use drugs or alcohol.

? He must not return to his home and not make contact with any residents of his estate except the Stander family.

BigAudioDynamite · 22/02/2013 15:02

I feel quite strongly, for no logical reason, that OP should pay bail for/help our the guy in that article that someone posted on the other thread....the paraplegic who is being denied basic care in prison whilst he awaits trial/cant afford bail

jaynebxl · 22/02/2013 15:03

Who are the Stander family?

BeCool · 22/02/2013 15:03

That would be great BAD - dream on though I reckon!

BigAudioDynamite · 22/02/2013 15:08

Can Amnesty International not take on his case? How do they become aware of people who need their help?

sadeyedladyofthelowlandsase · 22/02/2013 15:11

The Stander family might be relatives of Burry Stander, a mountain biker who was friends with OP. Burry was killed in a road accident quite recently.

BeCool · 22/02/2013 15:36

John Stander was the first person Oscar called.

From his affidavit:
""I battled to get her out of the toilet and pulled her into the bathroom. I phoned Johan Stander ("Stander") who was involved in the administration of the estate and asked him to phone the ambulance."

Andro · 22/02/2013 15:37

Jeez, I step away to deal with a situation and finally gets to point 5 minutes after I left Angry

I can't help but feel it was the right result though...at least for this stage of proceedings.

diddl · 22/02/2013 15:45

Is it usual for someone charged with murder to get bail?

YellowFlyingPineapple · 22/02/2013 15:51

Stander is the head of security on the Estate I think

Andro · 22/02/2013 15:52

Not for premeditated murder diddl although under the exceptional circumstances clause there is scope (and almost certainly past precedent) for bail to be given - it's not as if OP has been given bail just because he's OP.

diddl · 22/02/2013 15:54

No I wasn't thinking it's because he was OP.

I thought it was yet to be determined if it was premeditated?

I suppose I just find it odd that you can shoot someone & then be free to await the trial!

BeCool · 22/02/2013 15:59

Diddl I believe it is because, even though there is no doubt he killed her, there is a chance he could be found guilty of a lesser charge that carries a non-custodial sentence (i.e. if they believe his account that is was an accident and he killed her by mistake and it was a reasonable mistake to make).

BeCool · 22/02/2013 16:00

I agree it is odd - but it is a possibility in SA

DreamsTurnToGoldDust · 22/02/2013 16:01

I agree diddl, I find it odd and somewhat depressing, as in life is cheap.

BeCool · 22/02/2013 16:05

Although I find OP's account of the evening well dubious, I did feel a sense of relief he got bail. Purely because the jails are so incredibly inhumane, debased and horrendous, I don't think ANYONE should have to go there. Not even really bad bad people should be kept in those conditions in a civilised society.

I'm keeping the faith that justice will prevail eventually.