Grayling defending smacking

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Never did him any harm apparently. The tory party are such a bunch of tossers. Whatever next?

Oh and just to add socket protectors are dangerous.

they never did me any harm

Polkadotcircus Would you smack a dog ?

It is safer not to use them as it is easier for kids to get to live wires with them in.Modern day sockets are actually quite safe without.Just sayin.

I have kicked a dog that tried to bite my son- so sue me!

We used socket protectors quite happily - and takes the interest level of the holes away for one thing - gives a "closed" message I think.

Also I've used them at many nurseries where I've worked so surprised to see you say they are dangerous Polka ?

Also about the hot oven/ running in road things I just think you have to put a gate on the kitchen/ hold your child's hand on pavement, that sort of thing.
And use your voice, a lot if necessary.

I was advised not to use them when childminding as were several others. Fil is an electrical scientist and has been saying the same for years.Modern sockets have a safety thing in that protectors open.

Anyway as you were.

the one that I addressed to her by mistake.

raisinboys - hitting as retaliation is not right, but smacking is an different thing!

I heard this phrase "slap on the wrist" many times.
if I'm correct it means that although you had a small punishment, you are actually happy that you did not get a bigger punishment as you fully well know that you had done something wrong.
the "slap" is a warning and it is designed to make you think of your actions now and in the future, so you can avoid doing the same wrong thing next time, especially in light of the knowledge that next time will be worse.

that is what I think a smack means. it is expected. it is a warning. it is to protect you. it is meant from a point of view of teaching right from wrong. it puts you in your place and makes you think twice before ever doing it again.

and for a lot of people/children it is effective first time round, or even the threat of it will be effective.

Nice!

There is plenty on Google re this subject.

Melinka, a child crawling or toddling should not be left unattended and therefore will not notice the sockets as you or whoever is the carer is engaging with the child. If you have to move around the house you take the child with you, if they are too small to be left unattended. If you can't then you wait til the child has a nap before doing such a task, but it's wrong to smack because you don't have the time or patience to manage.

I really hope all theses smackers make it clear to other mums they smack kids before parties and playdates without parents. because those occasions are often full of over excited children who might not snap to attention and end up getting slapped by a stressed adult with a penchant for hitting when stressed or feeling like they have lost control.

that protecters can open if removed and reinserted upside down.

Sockets in the UK aren't dangerous anyway, some people feel that socket covers actually make them more dangerous. In any case they are very easy to remove, I remember taking them out to serve as a table for my playmobil people!

Of course smacking will discourage them from doing something - nobody is saying that it doesn't work at all. It's just that other parents manage to teach their DCs fundamental safety concepts without smacking, so it's reasonable to debate whether it's beneficial or not IMO.

Went to make a sandwich and everyone had stolen my point!

Er Lavender I don't think that a "smacking parent" would smack a child which wasn't their own anyway!

It isn't really about socket protecters is it

BertieBotts why not?

Recall would you shout and threaten a child that wasn't your own?

I wouldn't shout and threaten anyone or anything

So you never threaten to take things away or raise your voice?Countless mums do and would never do it to children not their own.

Why would you smack your own child, but not someone else's ?

There is a fucking great big elephant in this thread

Because it's taboo - because not all parents agree with it. Because even when I was growing up and most children were smacked, no parent would smack another parent's child - they would tell the parent and the parent would probably smack them later, but they'd never do it themselves. I don't think most people would punish a visiting child at all - maybe a telling-off if they needed one, after that surely the ultimate threat is to send them home? It's up to a child's parents to decide how they discipline them, after all.

Really, why, what is that?

Parents all parent in different ways and respect how other people parent ie they butt out.When my dtwins play up I threaten to take their IPods away,no way would I do that to a friend on a play date in my house.Not sure I'd put a child on the step either which incidentally you're not supposed to do anymore either.

There is no elephant.I don't smack and know my friends respect that,I have never warned them not to smack as I know they never would a) they don't smack in anger b) every parent knows the code.