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Are you in favour of Scotland leaving the UK?

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LadyMaryCreepyCrawley · 15/10/2012 18:39

Lucky bastards! Sad

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Mrsjay · 16/10/2012 16:46

i watch BBC ALba quite a lot some of the programmes are good they do have subtitles though ,

AitchTwoOhOneTwo · 16/10/2012 16:46

we have a whole channel now...

why is everyone treating the matter of an independent Scotland as if Salmond is going to be crowned as a result? i genuinely don't understand. we'll still have all the other parties, won't we? it'll probably be great for the tories in scotland, a real shot in the arm.

bureni · 16/10/2012 16:48

Is Gaelic taught in Scotland nowadays?

mrscumberbatch · 16/10/2012 16:49

Yup. There's still schools that have it on the curriculum. It's largely down to area though.

Mrsjay · 16/10/2012 16:49

Yes you have Gaelic Meduim classes or schools ,

AitchTwoOhOneTwo · 16/10/2012 16:49

yep. they can't build the schools fast enough for the uptake.

Mrsjay · 16/10/2012 16:50

My DDs friend didn't go to the local primary he went to the Gaelic school well it is a part of another primary ,

anice · 16/10/2012 16:50

Montenegro has the euro but is not even a member of the EU (and it didn't ask teh EU's permission first). So there is precedent for a country tying itself to another's currency without agreement.

Its a fairly stupid thing to do though because the interest rate policy is one of the main tools for growing/ cooling the economy. The other is being able to devalue your currency.

As we've seen recently with the euro, a tied currency without poliitcal integration is a recipe for disaster (in this case for Scotland but not for England).

I can't imagine why Alex Salmond isn't telling the Scots that they need their own currency (because this really is year 1, day 1, page 1 of an economics degree).

bureni · 16/10/2012 16:50

Good to hear that Gaelic is still taught, it is also taught in Ireland north and south.

prettybird · 16/10/2012 16:51

Yup Aitch - people need to understand that a vote for Independence is not a vote for Salmond.

If the vote is "Yes" - then when we become independent, we get to vote for any and whatever parties want to set up in Scotland. That may or may not include old New Labour, the Greens and even the Tories - as well as the SNP. In fact, the SNP might have the toughest time long term, since their raison d'etre would have dissipated.

oohlaalaa · 16/10/2012 16:53

Haven't Scotland and England been united for over 400 years?

I dated a Scottish boy at uni, he went to university in England, and although he's moved back to Scotland, he worked for a number of years after uni in England. I don't get the need to separate. Would he need a visa in future, and to pay higher university fees?

If the Scots want to separate, then so be it.

Will I need a passport to visit Scotland, and another currency? If so we would not visit as often.

As long as the Scottish tax payer, is paying the costs for them separating, then it's fine with me.

squoosh · 16/10/2012 16:53

It's not compulsory though bureni. I don't know many Scots who have a cúpla focail.

AitchTwoOhOneTwo · 16/10/2012 16:53

i think the jocks are quite inspired by the irish and welsh language schools experience. we were at the Mod yesterday, lots of kids and young people singing and dancing their hearts out, it was lovely. no finer music in the world.

AitchTwoOhOneTwo · 16/10/2012 16:56

(some of us have enough to spot yer bad gaidhlig, squoosh... Wink)

squoosh · 16/10/2012 16:58

What was wrong with it?

AitchTwoOhOneTwo · 16/10/2012 17:00

did you mean facail? or cupall? or cupla without the accent? Grin

anice · 16/10/2012 17:00

Union of the Crowns (James Vi of Scotland became James I of Scotland when Elezabeth I died) in 1606.

However, the union of the parliaments wasn't for another hundred years in 1707 when Scotland had some spectacularly bad luck and was going bust.

squoosh · 16/10/2012 17:04

Nope, I meant definitely meant 'cúpla focail'. It's Irish.

AitchTwoOhOneTwo · 16/10/2012 17:06

why are you asking what's wrong with it, then, if it's not even gaidhlig? or were you being deliberately obtuse?

SusanneLinder · 16/10/2012 17:08

Can we clear up some myths here please?

1.You can join the EU, you do NOT have to join the Euro.
2.You don't have to like Alex Salmond.If you vote for independence, he WONT be running the country post independence or else Scotland would be an autocracy not a democracy.Normal elections as usual in 2016.
3.It is not just the SNP who are in favour of independence, there are Labour ,Green and Independent MSP's that are voting for it.
4.Yes Scotland will be taking its share of the debt, why wouldnt we be? Hmm

JennyPiccolo · 16/10/2012 17:09

This conversation is a bit absurd.

squoosh · 16/10/2012 17:10

Good grief. Hmm

I was talking to Bureni who said she was glad to hear it was being taught in Scotland. I was merely saying to her that in my experience most adult Scots do not have much knowledge of the language.

But go ahead, be as prickly and unpleasant as you like.

GimmeIrnBru · 16/10/2012 17:13

I've got everything crossed we become independent - no more David Cameron YIPEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TiAAAAARGHo · 16/10/2012 17:17

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TiAAAAARGHo · 16/10/2012 17:18

Nope, if you join the EU the EU rules are that you have to join the Euro. Didn't used to be that way, but now it is for all new accession states.

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