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Soldiers Beating up teenagers in Iraq...

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MrsBigD · 12/02/2006 08:23

News of the World

Sky News

Just saw this on Sky News and am once again slightly amazed at the general population...

I can possibly understand the attitudes that the News of the World shouldn't have published the video footage due to maybe putting other soldiers in Iraq under thread of attack - though I don't agree.

However when they showed the result of the opinion poll whether soldiers accused of abuse should be prosecuted I just was amazed... a high percentage said 'NO'... I was just flabbergasted ... so if one is a soldier and happily goes along abusing the people of the country who they are supposed to protect it's ok to abuse them???? surely not.

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ruty · 17/02/2006 11:06

Baldwin was PM at the time, but Churchill played a big part in the 'negotiations'...

peacedove · 17/02/2006 13:47

tiredemma In the First Gulf War, I saw an air-raid shelter in Baghdad being precision-bombed. The casualties were all civilian, women and children. After that I haven't watched the pictures of yet more atrocities. But the image is still fesh in my mind.

It is my well-considered opinion that the Western governments are blood thirsty. Not necessarily in its own right, but for economic gains and power over others. They won't kill their own people, but they will bring war to the weak people.

Do you think the Western governments want peace?

all you need is a declaration by the US government that it does not seek bases in the ME, is winding them down, and its troops will be home by six months, shall we say.

And that further US activities in Iraq will only be civilian in nature.

satine I live in the East, as well as in the West.

I don't hate the West. I hate the greed and the governments that regard people of the third world as sub-human.

Living in the East, if perchance your area is eyed by the greedy corporations, or lies in the path of strategic or tactical interests of the West, then you are in for trouble. There will be destabilisation, there will be militias armed by the more developed nations, there will be wars, and your children will have no chance to live a peaceful life. Or to live at all.

The West is much, much safer than the East, and those who are smart and care for their children will try to move to the West.

Because of this migration, there will be, and there is, friction; and this peace will be, and is being, disturbed.

When enough disturbance of peace occurs, the population will put pressure on its governments to stop the causes of that disturbance.

ruty · 17/02/2006 13:57

i really don't know how Blair and Bush sleep at night. i guess they blank it out.

sharklet · 17/02/2006 14:13

Peacedove you make so much more sense when you stop shouting at us and stop treating us as personally responsible for our governemt's actions.

I agree that setting a time frame for the removal of troops and agreeing to no bases to be set up in the east would make a lot of sense. I really want the allied force to come out of Iraq - I never wanted them to go in.

I too don't know how Bush and Blair sleep, they have a lot to answer for.

peacedove · 17/02/2006 15:50

sharklet I have never ever thought or propagated that the citizens of the West are responsible for their governments. Even when a US citizen said: "I am the government", even then I told her she is mistaken.

But I do wonder what democracy is being advocated when the West hasn't tamed its own governments and its corporations.

Nightynight · 18/02/2006 13:14

exactly. you cant claim to live in a democracy, and then disclaim any responsibility for the actions of its leaders.

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