Cease extradition of Mother's young son to USA. 'The Fight of Her Life' Julia O'Dwyer, Richard O'Dwyer.r

[Vesta2]

Fellow Mum's please could you support this mother in her campaign to cease extradition of her young son to the USA. Please visit her blog juliasblog-the-fight-of-our-lives.blogspot.com/og. Thankyou

[Dprince]

The crime was committed not commuted.

[Vesta2]

LineRunner yep, American Independence day, seems England can't say the same.

[Poulay]

Because we extradite a criminal? Eh what? They extradite to us, we extradite to them. Following due process. No big deal.

[LineRunner]

It is somewhat of a big deal.

[Vesta2]

poulay

1. criminals are people who have been found guilty of a crime.
   

1. US citizens are afforded greater protection from extradition as it's written in their constitution.
   

3 Prior to the 2003 amended treaty uk citizens had same protections, after 9/11 the treaty was hastily amended for counter-terrorism purposes.

4 The extradition treaty as it stands empowers the US and disempowers the UK.

1. I cannot see how anybody who is a UK citizen can possibly find this situation anything other than unacceptable.

[LineRunner]

I would definitely like a public debate.

To me, it seems a dangerous precedent to set, to send a British citizen into the lion's den and shrug and say that's ok because people think he's a bit of a tosser.

So we're going to sacrifice Magna Carta because some bloke's mum's blog is a bit crap?

[Poulay]

Anyone would think from reading the above that the Americans refuse to extradite to us. They don't.

We extradite to them they extradite to us, there is no imbalance, only anti-American posturing.

[Dprince]

So somebody who is accused of a crime (and admits the act) shouldn't be punished? Because they are not resident in that country?

[Vesta2]

poulay
signme.org.uk/749Lib Dems launch petition To Change The Unfair UK/US Extradition Treaty

The president of the Liberal Democrats, Tim Farron, called on Theresa May to review her decision to approve the "ludicrous" extradition, while Conservative backbenchers said extraditions such as O'Dwyer's serve as "a thorn in the side of the special relationship".

Conservative backbencher Dominic Raab, a prominent civil liberties campaigner said he struggled to see the difference between O'Dwyer's actions and those of major search engines.

Former shadow home secretary David Davis has also spoken out in favour of O'Dwyer, and attended a campaigning event at Sheffield Hallam University for the student.

Sir Menzies Campell, who is carrying out a review of extradition policy for Liberal Democrat leader Nick Clegg, refused to comment on current cases but said the UK extradition treaty needed more stringent controls.

All the above extracts from yesterdays Guardian.
www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/apr/18/richard-odwyer-extradition-piracy-charges

[Vesta2]

signme.org.uk/749 Lid Dems launch petition To Change The Unfair UK/US Extradition Treaty

[Poulay]

Dominic Raab is evidently a bit thick.

Google do not encourage people to link to illegal movies, they index the whole internet.

If he had made a website that only accepted, let's say child pornography, saying 'hey child porn fans, I am only accepting child porn links, please send me yours - any legal pornography will be rejected' would people say that that's no different to what Google does either?

Because that's exactly what O'Dwyer did. He ran a website which ONLY linked to illegal content. If anyone can point to a major corporation that has a website devoted to illegal content I'm all hours.

Google has video.google.com which I'm sure has some illegal stuff in it, but they don't do it knowingly or deliberately, it's done by a robot which takes EVERYTHING. That's their defence.

O'Dwyer has no defence. None whatsoever.

[Poulay]

'All ears' not 'all hours'.

[Poulay]

What's that got to do with Richard O'Dwyer? O'Dwyers actions are illegal under the 1996 Agreement on Trade-Related Aspects of Intellectual Property Rights which has been signed by almost every country on Earth: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:World_Trade_Organization_Members.svg

The EU rejected the NEW treaty because of issues such as trade in generic medicines. NOT because they thought Richard O'Dwyer should be able to profit from stolen movies.

[LineRunner]

What's anything got to do with one bloke? That's my point. This is about Magna Carta.

[Vesta2]

poulay ''I am proud to say that the highly controversial Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA) will not come into force in the European Union,? the Treaty?s rapporteur in the European Parliament, David Martin MEP, wrote on his blog after the session.
?This is a historic day in terms of European politics,? he wrote. The European Parliament vote means that 22 European member states cannot ratify ACTA into their local sovereign law.'' www.rt.com/news/acta-eu-parliament-vote-400/

[Poulay]

That's really fascinating but is completely irrelevant to O'Dwyer's actions which have been ruled illegal under UK law by a UK court and by existing (1996) international treaty.

[Vesta2]

signme.org.uk/749 Lid Dems launch petition To Change The Unfair UK/US Extradition Treaty

[Vesta2]

signme.org.uk/749 Lid Dems launch petition To Change The Unfair UK/US Extradition Treaty