Edward and Sophie's baby

[LucieB]

Anyone else think its a bit odd that mother and baby still haven't been reunited. Apparently the baby was delivered by c-section on Saturday and Sophie still hasn't been to St George's to see her, despite the press saying that both mother and daughter are doing well. If mother is doing well, why haven't they transferred her to George's to be near her daughter, or vice versa. All a bit strange....

SE London

Anti - George Bush coffee morning?

Sorry...couldn't help myself

dumping loads of dirty nappies outside No 10?...

I had an emergency c'section after developing severe pre-eclampsia suddenly and 2 days of labour didn't shift the little buggers! (I love them really!)

My twin ds were born at 36 weeks weighing 5lb and 5lb4oz and were taken to the SCBU for the night. I got them back at 5 pm the day after but even spaced out I was asking for them and all through the night I kept asking how they were.

I had always thought Sophie a bit of a cold fish but it must be killing her to be away from her baby girl.

I know Marthamoo, it is tragic isn't it?

yes it is a shame, even if it is Ed and Sophie. But isn't this quite typical of women putting off children - for career - and choosing babies much later than our bodies would really like.

I have friends who are on IVF, others who are just having continual miscarrages, and the message is the same once we are over 35 we are just too old. I was 30 when I had my first, but I wouldn't have risked it at almost 39.

I hope they have the sense to call it a day and be grateful for one healthy daughter rather than risk Sophs life again.

Even as a father Ed cannot help himself in being a complete prat. He should cancel all his engagements and be sitting by either his wifes side or bonding with the baby. I read he visited her for one hour yesterday (oh wow!). He is just so useless, and he costs us tax payers a fortune.

Perhaps she hadn't met anyone earlier with whom she wanted to have children?

I'm really offended by your posting gosh2, on several counts. But as I've had a pretty shit day already and I don't fancy a slanging match I'll just say that perhaps you should be a bit more considerate about the tone you use when you're doling out your wisdom on mothers over 35. And I'm also no fan of the royals but I think the cat-calling can wait until we really know if Sophie and baby are safe and what Edward has to contend with in the coming weeks.

Yes, indeed. She didn't get married that long ago, tried for ages, did IVF etc and lost a baby via an ectopic. Some people just don't meet their life partner until later in life - me, for one. I'm glad I didn't have children with old boyfriends as I would now not see my kids at weekends. Anyway, the 'risks' of later motherhood are wildly overstated. A friend of mine started trying at 26 and five years on, two early miscarriages and an ectopic later is still trying. Did she leave it too late?

Yes, indeed. She didn't get married that long ago, tried for ages, did IVF etc and lost a baby via an ectopic. Some people just don't meet their life partner until later in life - me, for one. I'm glad I didn't have children with old boyfriends as I would now not see my kids at weekends. Anyway, the 'risks' of later motherhood are wildly overstated. A friend of mine started trying at 26 and five years on, two early miscarriages and an ectopic later is still trying. Did she leave it too late?

Dear me i dont think 35 is too old! I hope not too. I have one dd and plan to have more, as i am 30 next week that would mean i'd have to get me skates on!........

I have just had my second baby and I am 37. So am I over the hill aswell?
Personally I feel deeply sorry for both Sophie and Edward, I can think of nothing worse than not being with your newborn baby, and unfortunately because of who Edward is, he can't just jack everything else in and sit with the baby all the time, even though I'm sure he would dearly love to.

Feel a bit sad that there is so cat calling on this thread. When Gordon Brown had his baby it was all 'how wonderful', now this is getting a bit anti-royal rather than just saying congrats. Let's remember the poor woman is is hospital and, by all likelyhood, appears not to be feeling so great, and is divided from her newborn baby. Surely all us mums (and dads) must at least feel for her over this.

And how do we know how Edward feels? If he did give up all his duties then there would still be someone having a go for not doing it either so he is probably in a no win situation. Maybe he feels he is best spending time with his wife and his child, and keeping busy the rest of the time until they come home.

Sorry for rant, jut feel that they must going through a rough time as it is without cat calling (even if they don't see it).

i agree with CnR

I started at 32 and had two missed aborions, wasn't fortunate enough to get pregnant again until I was 35. It's not really fair to comment on when people should or shouldn't have babies, people try for years and the heartbreak you go through is soul destroying.

And I realise that I may open the floodgates here, may I jsut say that I'm very dubious about bonding. I didn't meet may parents till I was six weeks old as I was adopted and we had the most fantastic relationship. Loved each other to bits, still do actually even tho' Dad died three years ago and so I dont think the fact that Edward is not seeing his daughter as much as I am sure he would like to is going to affect their future realtionship. And coming out with comments like that at times like this is not nice or supportive at all. Would you say that to a father who couldn't be with his new child all the time as he had other children to look after?

mmm, I met my DH at 31, married at 32, started trying at 34, had DS1 at 35 and DS2 at 37. I dread to think what would have happened if I'd just gone for it with the person I was with in my twenties. As others have said, the career thing is usually a red herring - it's the life partner that is often elusive. Women might be ready to settle down in their twenties, but men tend to need a bit longer to grow up (to put it mildly) (Whoops - should have said SOME men).

Well I met my dh at 23 and was 35, nearly 36, by the time I had dd. We started trying at 31/2 No way we were ready before. Isn't it better to wait until you want to have children? And despite vile experience am ttc another and I'm now 37 so will be at least 38 by the time he/she arrives. I really think it is a matter of choice and people should not be criticised for waiting, for whatever reason.

CD you are just a young whipper-snapper. I had my babies in my 40's - not because I'm a career woman (am now SAHM) but because I didn't meet dh until I was in my 30's.

And yes I found gosh2's post offensive as well.

gosh2 - also gobsmacked at your post. Just curious - how old were you when you met your dh? Seeing how plain your feeling are on 'older" mums, don't you think that age 30 must have been a bit of a risk? Shouldn't you have got pg when you were younger too? I realise that some people have storng opinions on when is the "right" time to have a baby, but I definitely don't think that this was the "right" time to make those feelings known. Highly inappropriate timing IMO.

I was amazingly lucky and married dh at 23 and had ds at 26. Silly, selfish me though managed to have a miscarriage first at 25 which I believe is the optimum age to have a baby?

Oooer, well I'm 43 and I've got an 8 month old baby. Nothing to do with career either. I married my husband when I was 32 (personally didn't want children before marriage), had 2 miscarriages and then my son when I was 35. Following his birth I was extremely ill for some years and was told not to have another baby for some time. In a way it was fate as my son is severely autistic and I think it would have been very hard to cope if I'd had another sooner despite my illness. So, no-ones perfect and nor is anyone's life.
I think its wonderful that Sophie and Edward have at last had a baby and I just hope it all works out well. I've been off-line for quite a few days and have been too busy to see the news regularly so I'm dying to know if they've chosen a name.....

Yes, I was offended at gosh2's post, too. I'm 40, met my husband at 34, married at 36 and didn't get pregnant until 38. I wouldn't have wanted kids with any of my previous bfs, even if they had asked, and my career is irrelevant.

Older women may be more prone to pregnancy related problems (don't know the figures for this, just guessing), but who are you to say they shouldn't have the same right to a child as a younger woman, gosh2?

I dearly hope Sophie isn't a mumsnetter, I would hate for her to come across this sort of opinion, while she is trying to recover from what must have been a horrible time.

I do think that the questions Gosh2 raises can make for an intersting discussion, but it doesn't belong on this thread!

Quite Fairymum.