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What's happening with the Dale Farm eviction?

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Teachermumof3 · 18/09/2011 20:13

Does anyone who live locally know what's going on? Have many of the travellers left? Will there be a horrible fight at 9am tomorrow?

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Dipsyistipsy · 29/09/2011 22:17

If you want statistics,there is a well known search engine called Google,try using it sometime.

norriscoleforpm · 29/09/2011 22:18

Why should I? we all know the reality of Traveller girls and their education.

Dipsyistipsy · 29/09/2011 22:27

I dont,why dont you tell me,is the source of your knowledge " My big fat gypsy wedding",because we all know what a load of bollocks that was.

norriscoleforpm · 29/09/2011 22:33

No, it's from working extensively in Cottenham with Traveller families as a schools liaison officer. I assume you've heard of Cottenham?

Dipsyistipsy · 29/09/2011 22:38

No I havent actually but I would not expect a School Liaison Officer to be racially abusing Traveller,s and their children on the internet.

EmmaCummins · 29/09/2011 22:39

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EmmaCummins · 29/09/2011 22:48

And im glad to hear you paid for your home...just as Traveller's do, dont know whether your aware but the council don't handout caravans as they do houses! So your point being????

norriscoleforpm · 29/09/2011 22:54

Racially abusing??? hahahahahahaha. Course I am. Please point out this 'racial abuse'.

utahforever · 29/09/2011 23:08

I didn't want statistics, just to have some information from those who know about this culture from living within it.

However, I was hoping for a reasonable discussion not petty insults.

Dalefarmdolly · 30/09/2011 12:13

Speak to norriscole he seems to know everything

norriscoleforpm · 30/09/2011 12:21
Thanks
cookcleanerchaufferetc · 30/09/2011 14:38

Mr Justice Ouseley said yesterday: ?It is not always possible to get what they most want, especially when what they most want is to go on committing a criminal offence.?

Hmmmmmm

PS Norris, nice flowers!

norriscoleforpm · 30/09/2011 15:50

lovely aren't they?

EmmaCummins · 30/09/2011 16:56

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norriscoleforpm · 30/09/2011 17:06

You're not really very bright are you - the bunch of flowers is a 'Thank you' icon. I was saying 'Thank you' for saying that I seem to know everything. A lovely compliment Thanks. Look below at the list of smilies. Smile

EmmaCummins · 30/09/2011 17:10

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norriscoleforpm · 30/09/2011 17:45

certainly, ms large vocabulary.

utahforever · 30/09/2011 17:53

Could someone in the know, please answer my question.

I really would like to understand more Smile

norriscoleforpm · 30/09/2011 17:55

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utahforever · 30/09/2011 17:56

ps. I have Googled, but most of the references are to 'My big fat Gypsy wedding' - which apparently is not an accurate source of information Grin

Dipsyistipsy · 30/09/2011 18:10

utahforever,i will be back later(cooking tea atm),will try and answer your question then.

lljkk · 30/09/2011 18:41

Utah, your question sparked my curiousity so I did a little research, which I don't know if it's definitive. I'm gleaning this from various sources.

"Traditionally" travellers have just never been well incorporated into the educational system. They weren't even allowed to register at many schools (decades ago). That combined with the instability of their lifestyle meant that they weren't well-educated so they didn't have education as a high cultural value (generally, individual variations apply). Education up to 11yo was seen as reasonable (they are adhering to cultural customs of 100 years ago, really).

There are a lot of stories about travellers treated very badly by primary schools just 30-40 years ago, lumped in with all the kids with SN and learning difficulties & left to their own devices, etc. Most modern travellers see the need for their kids to have more years of formal education & qualifications, BUT there's an intra-generational tension, "why should my kids get better educated than me? I did fine.", "Who do they think they are to Lord that over me?" etc.

And as in most cultures, it's the women/females who most preserve the traditions. So if the tradition is not to bother after 11yo...

I was wondering how the Finnish handle educating the Saami (native seasonally nomadic distinct ethnic group). From the bits I've read a lot of similar issues arise (wrt education, anyway).

EmmaCummins · 30/09/2011 19:25

Well norris thank fuck for that!!! For somebody who "really couldnt give a toss whether the Dale farmers say or go" you really have invested an awful lot of time posting on this thread. May I be so rude as to make a suggestion........the time youve spent on this thread could be valuable time spent with your children......

cookcleanerchaufferetc · 30/09/2011 20:48

Emma - pot, kettle, black!!!!!!

Dalefarmdolly · 01/10/2011 15:55

Pot calling kettle black....hmmm I don't see that as Emma clearly had not said she couldn't give a toss or have I misunderstood what you mean ???

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