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Enfield riots?

916 replies

Empusa · 07/08/2011 18:21

Just seen on Twitter and in a few articles like this, that there are meant to be plans for a riot in Enfield tonight and riot police are in the town centre?

Used to live there, and got family there (luckily a fair distance from the centre), but fucking hell! What the hell is going on?

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caramelwaffle · 09/08/2011 18:33

Oh Kungfu - are you defending?

Is she more upset that she has been arrested? Or that they were Nike, not Adidas? Grin

(no - don't respond and prejudice the case. Spill after tomorrow)

teejwood · 09/08/2011 18:35

dubai that is foul re PlanB's friend - never mind 'normal' was he speaking about it as if it is acceptable?
I hate this increasing sexual abuse of women - because that is what it is. It is seriously worrying Sad

teejwood · 09/08/2011 18:36

kungfu but i'm guessing based on past experience you know you're just likely to get a mouthful of verbal? together with a demand to get her off?

MoreBeta · 09/08/2011 18:39

Just been on the train talking to someone from Birmingham. Told me how gangs of young men were out yesterday evening openly walking up and down the main streets in the city centre threatening to beat women up coming home from work with baseball bats unless they handed over their purses. Smashing and looting a lot of shops too.

He said, Birmingham tonight is in virtual lockdown as most shops/offices sent staff home at 3 pm and gangs of young men hanging about on the streets with big police presence in a ring around the city centre.

I think it is quite right that rubber bullets and tear gas is being considered.

CDMforever · 09/08/2011 18:47

I agree MoreBeta. Its appalling and the police can't win.
Either they're criticised for being too heavy-handed or for not doing enough.
I feel so worried about what is going to happen to innocent people.

MoreBeta · 09/08/2011 18:59

I was out and about travelling today and my children kept asking DW if I was going to be OK when they saw the Sky news reports. Sad

My feeling is that tonight there is going to be a virtual cerfew in big cities around the UK and the police have been instructed to use very heavy tactics against the hardcore out on the streets. Problem is that I also have a feeling these gangs will move to secondary cities with smaller less well prepared/equipped police.

We will see in the morning.

Pan · 09/08/2011 19:03

I don't think the police have helped their own PR by being 'brutal' t oinnocent people in the past and telling big fibs about what really happened.

Having said that I am very happy to park my liberal concerns and see the police using rubber bullets, water hoses and generally get really heavy-handed with looters.

forehead · 09/08/2011 19:09

Just got a text from my friend there is trouble in the Beckton area of London.

CustardCake · 09/08/2011 19:26

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marriedinwhite · 09/08/2011 19:29

Here here to Custard Cake

TandB · 09/08/2011 20:26

I haven't had any involvement yet but from what I gather cold reality might be setting in pretty hard.

TandB · 09/08/2011 20:27

And it wasn't trainers incidentally!

Tierdmummy · 09/08/2011 20:32

What a bunch of idiots!!!

Living in a spoon fed country where help is always given from the goverment, They actually think they are owed somthing.
Maybe people who think little of our country should go over to africa or india ect just for a month or so and see how hard life is without a stable goverment and law.
Goodness me They do not have a clue these days how easy they have it!!

CheerfulYank · 09/08/2011 20:48

It is so terrible!

I was always told as a child that you work hard and you never take things that aren't yours. (This coming from parents who had their first DC at 18 and worked crap jobs for years to support us on their own.)

I wonder what these people are being told as they grow up?

SpeedyGonzalez · 09/08/2011 20:59

Tierdmummy - though your last post sounds very Daily Mail, I totally agree with you.

I think these people should be given lengthy community sentences where they are sent in pairs to serve a poor community in a developing country. For six months minimum. They need to pull their heads out of their backsides and see what life is really like, and how bloody stupid and lucky they are.

Fifis25StottieCakes · 09/08/2011 21:45

Newcastle is kicking off. Metrocentre evacuated and Debenhams in Newcastles windiws smashed, large groups of youths congregating on northumberland street

juicychops · 09/08/2011 22:21

watching the news over the last couple of days just makes me feel sick. what a bunch of utterly disgraceful opportunistic low life scum bags these idiots are. i can't believe what is happening and i cant comprehend how these people think it is fun and a laugh to do these things. what on earth goes through their minds? it makes me hate living in this country

Kladdkaka · 09/08/2011 22:49

Well the woman talking on Sky News (not the newsreader) just pretty much blamed it all on the single mothers responsible for raising these boys who have chosen this 'alternative lifestyle' for themselves. Shock

CustardCake · 09/08/2011 22:56

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Fifis25StottieCakes · 09/08/2011 23:05

Looks like Manchester had been hit hard, god knows if anything is kicking off in Newcastle. Hard to know if its rumours or its not being reported

Pan · 09/08/2011 23:10

Without under-estimating it in total, proportinate to London I don't think M/c has been hit hard. There are a handfuls of some serious looting and a couple of shops and a building burned, which is prob. about the same damges suffered in one suburb of London. Having said that I don't think it's over yet.

debrs4 · 09/08/2011 23:11

Relieved all is quiet on the Croydon front tonight but horrified to see other areas being affected. Love and prayers to them.

hifi · 09/08/2011 23:28

once the shopping malls have been looted does it then turn to private residences? the leafy suburbs havent been affected, nobody gives a shit about the poor areas. maybe order will kick in when it affects the wealthy voters.there needs to be a more aggresive show of force.

maighdlin · 09/08/2011 23:30

bit of trouble last night in belfast but barely mentioned on news, as it was at the internment bonfires not the whatever the fuck is wrong riots on mainland.

a good down pour of rain is always good to stop them.

i just can't see their justification or reasons behind it. yes there are cuts and fewer opportunities but will looting a tv fix that? if the situation was that bad then it would be people running round stealing food not technology and clothes. that situation i understand. i agree with other posters that we have no right to moan in the uk. yes unemployment is dreadfully high and services are being cut but none of us will actually starve to death or die from disease, we do have a benefit system and a free to use health service. i moan all the time about my life but have the perspective to think how lucky i am that i have clean water coming from my taps and a vaccinated child that has a full belly, and if one of us ever took sick we can get hospital treatment and medicine without getting into debt and danger. i will never have to make the choice between feeding my children or giving them medication. i have every sympathy for up risers in north africa fighting for basic human rights and freedoms but what right or freedom are we denied in the uk? the right to the lastest gadgets and fashions? i just can't get my head round it.

Jugglingjemima · 10/08/2011 04:09

Announcement on platform at London Victoria station earlier: "This is a country filled with courage. Everything will be alright. Have a nice evening".

(comment in the New York Times)