Les Tricoteuses - Part Deux

[BornSicky]

new thread to discuss phonehacking scandal.

Luca - I did think of sonnets actually, but they are really complex. Heroic rhyming couplets would work! Limericks would be good IMO.

It's just that this crucial farce we are seeing being played out is absolutely ripe for a poetic piss take, which directs minds to truths and lies being told. No other country has this history, going back to Chaucer, John Donne (though Irish I think), right through to Bragg and Linton Kwesi Johnson and more modern poets of whom I know little...

"There was an old man from Wapping
Whose morals were totally shocking
Much money he spent
To buy a Parliament
but didn't like to come a-knocking"

referring to the back door at no.10 thing....

I know that, TT !

That's what I said, they just go off to sunnier climes !

Hands are OK at the moment. Banged table with fist several times today due to new 'revelations'.....it's not getting any better, is it ?!

There once was a poster called Bucket....

fuck it?
luck it?

Who tried to write 17 syllables then thought "fuck it"....

Brilliant Pan! My brain is now mush but I would lay bets I wake up thinking in rhyme. Not good i imagine

TerribleTriplets
"(that one will not end well)" - thanks for that, I prob woke the kids up with my roaring,

chuck it?

And it's me who lowers the tone......

No , it's getting much much worse, isn't it.

I am sorely tempted though to start a thread elsewhere to ask exactly how all of this affects the accepted process and practices of staff and corporate management and governance in this country. I can't be the only one who has thought 'hmmmm..how much do I know about what happens in my name of which I really would not approve?

just a thought. It's really easy, and delightful to mock the Murdochs, but it must occur to some to question how far 'control' and being accountable for it extends.

I completely concur, Awesome.

The problem is, as we saw with the Murdochs, Brooks and DC yesterday, I don't think those 'at the top' think they are accountable. There is always someone/thing else to take the blame.

And I don't think it is just restricted to media/police/politicians either.

I am not good at haikus
because I do not know when to
start

And I think maybe the question is "just how much don't I know about what happens in my name".....

Or would we all be too horrified of the answer ?

Agree; awesome. Comedy aside, it is the police aspect that bothers me most. I think that every politician until this year has needed to have JM onside.

yes mrsd - As with most things, I tend to ask 'what does this say about me?'

I suspect that not many people, me included, do not operate in such a rarified atmosphere as we are seeing in the national media. Nonetheless, anyone with responsibilities for, and to, other people should surely be asking themselves 'how much do I know'? I have responsibilities for 20 professionals in a delicate area of work. I assume what they tell me is honest.

oh Tt - nice. "I am not good..."

I assume that most people do, Awesome ?

I sincerely hope that most people do not operate as we are seeing, but I am beginning to wonder....maybe we are the ones that are wrong ?

I personally could not live like that.

I wonder if your staff think of you as 'too trusting' ? I wouldn't like to think so. But it does make you think.

'too trusting'? no I am sure they don't. In my field I am too much of an interventionist, by nature. But too many times I do see other things happening and think surely not! Who allowed that to happen?

But..I do still think there are lessons to be learned, beyond haiku and limerick-writing!

Sorry to miss out on poetry hour last night - great stuff there

and i claim my first bingo!!! of the day for the appearance of the gob in the beige suit on bbc breakfast

Oh,that dodgy journalist in the kebab suit is on Breakfast.

I think John Emerich Edward Dalberg-Acton, 1st Baron Acton had it right when he said:

"All power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely."

"I cannot accept your canon that we are to judge Pope and King unlike other men with a favourable presumption that they did no wrong. If there is any presumption, it is the other way, against the holders of power, increasing as the power increases. Historic responsibility has to make up for the want of legal responsibility. All power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not authority: still more when you superadd the tendency or certainty of corruption by full authority. There is no worse heresy than that the office sanctifies the holder of it.

Tom Watson to refer JM evidence at committee hearing to police it seems.

There once was a journo called Neville
Who worked for and supped with the devil
Young Jim Murdoch lied
With eyes open wide
Those Murdocks are not quite on the level

Tom Watson had a right pop at Robert Peston on Twitter. No love lost there it seems
twitter.com/#!/tom_watson

What is the punishment for contempt of parliament?

Babbling Brooks, he lost his computer
Said its worth could not be minuter
He sure was no boffin
And feared wife might doff him
Like Grant who she hit on the hooter