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Should David Cameron resign?

242 replies

reelingintheyears · 18/07/2011 22:40

Given that Paul Stephenson and John Yates have done so over their 'misjudgements' when hiring Neil Wallis should DC be accountable for his poor judgement in hiring Andy Coulson?

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flippinada · 19/07/2011 17:22

Not altogether surprising I reckon WidowWadman.

I suppose RM would view GB as someone who pulled himself up by his bootstraps, so to speak - unlike like TB and DC, both from very privileged backgrounds.

Which might also explain why he is/was so fond of RB. She is also 'self made'.

Or could be he is on the stir?

ItsGrimUpNorth · 19/07/2011 17:25

"Are are we seriously expected to believe that the only journalists involved in phone hacking work or used to work for News International? Of course not! I bet it's rife in every News organisation in the world. And ex-journalists do go on to work in other fields."

So what? This is so not the point and is nonsensical.

The point is that NI journalists have been caught good and proper. Because lots of journalists might do it, are you saying this inquiry shouldn't take place? Though I'm not sure many journalists would actually hack into the 'phone of a murdered girl actually.

What about the police? There may be other corrupt policemen who haven't been yet caught - I'm sure there are. Does this mean we just let go the ones that have been caught?

Plus NI is too powerful, believed itself above the law and needs to be reigned in. For some reason, it's happening only now.

Ponders · 19/07/2011 17:30

Didn't Rupert just say Gordon was the PM he always been closest to? What do you make of that?

I saw that quoted; their kids played together & RM is sad that GB has fallen out with him

Blimey - schoolgate politics!

diabolo · 19/07/2011 17:43

ItsGrimUpNorth - I am not saying the enquiry should not be taking place. Nowhere in my post do I even suggest anything like that, or that anyone guilty or corruption of any sort should get away with it.

I am answering the question "should David Cameron resign?" My opinion is "no, he shouldn't". I'm not sure how that is nonsensical.

Lulusi · 19/07/2011 18:02

Every PM has had to take a side with the R Murdoch - those who've gone against him have suffered the consequences.... but that is politics - everyone chooses which influential person they want or have to associate with. Like every game, the rules and the players change. DC hasn't acted any different to other politicians and many wishing to throw stones (like Labour) themselves also live in glass houses!!! NOTW is gone, we'll have and spend millions of taxpayers' money on commissions of enquiries and end up with a bunch of new regulations and ethical rules which will likely be ineffective and/or unenforceable. The real problem is not they got found out (cause this this phone hacking scandal has been an issue for years), but that they messed up on the wrong case, the MD murder case. Lets watch and wait... not to hasty to react...

matana · 19/07/2011 19:33

Should DC resign? Sadly, all that would be accomplished would be another dick splash come along to replace him.

mylovelymonster · 19/07/2011 19:46

Our economy desperately needs stability of leadership to keep us moving forward positively, so no, I don't think he should go.

If he did, who would you have take his place?

FancyALittle · 19/07/2011 19:50

Absolutely. The Tories only 'won' (ha!) the last election because The Sun switched to backing them from Labour. Who was the editor of The Sun at the time? Only David Cameron's neighbour Rebekah Brooks.

The whole thing stinks. Time for another election.

Chipotle · 19/07/2011 19:57

No I don't think so... I've learned (believe I've learned) these past few weeks that our government from Margaret Thatcher's, John Major's, Tony Blair's, Gordon Brown's and David Cameron's have had very dodgy dealings with the media and this news corporation in particular. The blame lies with all of them and predominately with News Corps. The blame lies with the Met Police also, they have let the people of London down. Something needs to be done to cleanse these corrupt relationships and sort out the media once and for all... David Cameron resigning for 'an error of judgement' will not solve anything.

This is so much bigger than that... What needs to be done... I wish I knew.

nanar · 19/07/2011 20:40

No, he shouldn't. He was stupid to hire Coulson, but he certainly hasn't been the only PM to cozy up to News Corps. I would guess that it is the only way the last few PMs have retained any popularity - if you ditched the Murdochs you risked losing a hell of a lot. Not right, but having been given that level of power, the politicians have been in a very difficult position for a long time.

reelingintheyears · 19/07/2011 20:45

Michael Foot,donkeys years ago asked Margaret Thatcher for an inquiry into the Murdoch 'empire'.

Margaret Thatcher refused and together they hammered the printers at Wapping.

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VanillaRooibos · 19/07/2011 20:55

NO

pickgo · 19/07/2011 20:59

Yes he should. He employed a criminal in no.10.
He probably knew he was a criminal.
He certainly knew the outcome of the previous investigations before he employed Coulson.
Just becaue many other are implicated it doesn't mean his involvement in the scandalous goings on over the last few years should be excused or ignored. It is not enough to apologise.
Tessa Jowell for PM. Smile (Joke!)

toutlemonde · 19/07/2011 21:03

yes yes yes

mylovelymonster · 19/07/2011 21:24

How about Vince Cable for PM? And a crack team of real hard nosed economists at the treasury to guide us off the rocks?
Boris for Deputy PM? There's a surprising amount of intelligent no-nonsense behind the buffoonery.

ByTheSea · 19/07/2011 21:29

Good post breadandbutterfly. I think that sums it up.

mylovelymonster · 19/07/2011 21:39

Bullshit. We have no money. What else could they have done?

mylovelymonster · 19/07/2011 21:55
amothersplaceisinthewrong · 19/07/2011 21:59

In a byegone age, David Cameron would have done the honourable thing and resigned. But not these days.

Theresa May could replace him....

edam · 19/07/2011 22:50

mylovely, not sure what the standard Tory defence for the cuts - 'there is no alternative' - has to do with Cameron's appalling lack of judgment in employing Coulson despite his history and despite being warned, repeatedly, that it was dangerous.

And 'there is no alternative' is a lie anyway. The Labour party planned to cut more slowly, over the lifetime of two parliaments, IIRC, to avoid strangling the recovery. There are plenty of economists who have a range of views on how the situation should be handled. 'TINA' is just an attempt to avoid taking responsibility for the decisions this government is making. Just as Cameron is trying to avoid responsibility for employing Coulson.

GiddyPickle · 19/07/2011 22:59

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mylovelymonster · 19/07/2011 23:16

The Labour Government spent like there was no tomorrow, oversaw the worst de-regulation of the banking sector since the crash of 1927, and got us into this stupid mess in the first place.
I am no Tory, but I loathe what Labour has brought on us, and our children etc etc.

LemonDifficult · 19/07/2011 23:22

I can't see anyone's actually changed their mind about David Cameron as a result of the scandal - if you liked him before you're happy for him to stay on, if you didn't like him before you now want him to resign. (The polls are bearing this out, I think.)

So, there's your answer OP: Should DC resign will get yeses or nos directly based on what everyone thought of him three weeks ago anyway.

snippywoo2 · 19/07/2011 23:48

When the Condems got in they went on and on about the note that said there's no money left, referring to it several times during prime minister's question time.
So how come we are giving money left right and centre to everyone else in aid, starting a war with Libya costing millions if not billions. I thought we were broke, and that's why we are cutting left right and centre in this country it doesn't make sense.

imogengladheart · 20/07/2011 00:16

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