Should David Cameron resign?

[reelingintheyears]

Given that Paul Stephenson and John Yates have done so over their 'misjudgements' when hiring Neil Wallis should DC be accountable for his poor judgement in hiring Andy Coulson?

He isn't getting much in the way of visible or vocal support from the Parliamentary party, is he? They're nearly all staying below the parapet. If they think keeping him is potentially damaging they still could force him out.

I didn't vote for Cameron and I don't 'warm' to him much, but at this stage of the inquiry he should not resign. Hind sight is a great thing but he hasn't done anything wrong, that we know about except maybe lacked some judgment.

ItsGrim, I used to be of the opinion that Tories could not be as 'nasty' as they were painted- I like to believe against all odds in the decency of human nature- but the kind of comments I've been reading recently on here and also on Guardian CiF have genuinely shocked me. It is the arrogant, sneering tone which really gives one pause, as you say. It isn't about debate but about closing down debate, casting blame and often, personal attacks (the Left are 'stupid', Stalinist etc...all the public sector are 'lazy fckers...' lovely additions such as 'get a f*cking grip', 'wake up', etc...) It's the language of adult bullying, and it's really made me see the Nasty Party in a damning new light.

That being said I think Blair was a creepy fanatic, and I'm not keen on 'Red' (ffs, what a misnomer) Ed either, I see no policies to speak of. Everyone seems to be in the control of the puppetmasters- the oligarchy of property-owners and big business. It's not a good time to be British, this one.

Interestingly some of the most scathing articles I've read about Cameron and Osborne being in thrall to News International have been in the right wing press. It strikes me that not all Tories are enamoured of the pair- bearing in mind they failed to secure an outright electoral majority in the last election despite Brown being uber unpopular.

Oh Yes. It would make my day. We didn't vote for him, his time is up hopefully.

That a media organisation and individuals within it behaved deplorably and illegally is one thing - the P.M can't be held responsible for that.

However - his actions in engaging in personal hob-nobbing with Murdoch et al while slashing the BBC looks very much like a partisan relationship and allowing himself to be open to accusations of conflict of interest. Especially given the proven transgressions and allegations on the table at the time.

That is serious.

Yes, he should go, he is a liar and a fool.

I hate the way everytime there is a scandal there has to be resignations. Fair enough if they are directly involved but quite often they are not, they are just scapegoats for when the public is after blood.

In some circumstances (not all obviously) I think it's better to stay in the job and learn from it. Otherwise you have someone new in who then makes their own set of mistakes.

Right wing tories do not like DC. They would like to replace him with someone more right wing. There is about to be a huge financial crisis when the euro crashes. DC was not in Africa 'spreading the lurve', he was on a trade visit. The only hope for our economy is in exporting to the rest of the world. That was why he went on a big trip to India so early on in his premiership. Anyone who does not understand this is financially illiterate.

When the markets crash, the Chinese, who do not have a national debt; they have a national wealth fund, will buy the big banks and mining and oil companies. That will be more of a problem for the British economy, British jobs and pension funds (including teachers' pension funds, not just private).

No, I don't think he should resign. I do think he made a huge error of judgement employing Coulson.

Having christmas dinner together and the rest. ffs. Are these people in cahoots? who is manipulating who? Who is really in charge here?

The whole thing is one massive error of judgement, not just the hiring of coulson, against the advice of everyone to whom he should have been listening. But it appears he was only listening to one organisation.......

compromised. yes

And yes, triplets. I also fear, once Greece defaults, our economy will hit the rocks and before we know it, we'll be the ones making cheap plastic toys for the Chinese children.
Then we'll hit the ground with a bump.

Remembering now what happened when Thatcher went.

If (and as I say if) DC goes I expect there will be manoeuvering behind the scenes beforehand as to who succeed.

If he does go I expect it will be due to machinations in his own party, and not because anyone else says he should (after all that is what did for MT).

I fear his replacemnt tbh, as has been mentioned already.

• who will succeed of course.

YY about the Euro crash.

Yes, he should resign. Either he knew what was going on or he didn't, and in both cases that is inexcusable (especially as he was warned repeatedly).

He can also resign over the tuition fees issue, and over his coalition which was not voted for, and for generally being a Blair clone.

Oh, and Libya.

keep him. he is entertaining and will make sure the Tories dont win next time

The far right of Conservatives can't stand DC so they'll be pushing him to the end of the plank with a huge stick. However they'll only replace him with some other twat so what's the point?

Terribletriplets - only just read your post - great minds...

Someone said earlier that all this had started inder Labours watch.

Surely all this hacking started years ago in the early 90's with the 'squidgygate' tapes involving Princess Diana and James Gilbey.

The home secretary at the time was Kenneth Clarke who said that there were enough procedures in place to prevent this happening...under the telecommunications act.

The Sunday Times and The Sun ran the stories iirc.

Terribletriplets You have already said all the things I wish I had said myself.
I do find it worrying that after all his expensive education DC cannot spot a flakey character when he meets one,however I suppose that takes common sense rather than education.Common sense isn't so common apparently!

It doesn't look good on the world stage that the PM of the UK had to run back home to sort out home affairs when he was out there selling British products.

Should he resign? I don't think so tbh. When the going gets tough the tough get going. No-one needs a quitter as a leader do they? Even if you did not vote him in, you still need someone steadfast to run the country.

We don't need some wimp who throws the towel in just because he gets a few bad headlines.
Expect I'll be torched for this but there you go...

Unfortunately money talks and even our own PM cannot get past that. Murdoch has enough money to have them all eating out of his hands. Only the fact that The Guardian despises him are we any the wiser to this.