Top intelligence analyst for Yorkshire police says 7/7 was false flag

[Kurkum]

Top police intelligence whistleblower is sacked for reporting to his seniors that 7/7 has the hallmarks of state terrorism.

"Tony Farrell had been employed for twelve years as ?Principle Intelligence Analyst? for South Yorkshire Police, 13th largest of the 44 police forces in the UK. His job involved producing a yearly ?Strategic Threat Assessment Matrix? to determine how the police force had to prioritise its activities.

Assessed ?threats? ranged from ASBOs (anti-social behaviour orders) to the terrorist threat presented by local mosques. Having a statistics degree, it was his job to translate the different ?strategic threats? into a ?matrix? of relative numerical weighted probabilities.

In 2010, one week before the 5th anniversary of 7/7, Tony (who had never previously doubted government versions of events) stumbled across ?9/11 Truth? material on the web. Like so many millions before him, he was shocked to the core by this experience. He quickly realised that there was a great mass of evidence relating to 9/11 kept hidden by the mainstream media. As a Christian, Tony consulted his church minister, who suggested that he consider, whether the same might be true for the London 7/7 bombings?

Something he had not suspected ?in his wildest dreams? then started to unfold. After reading much of the available but publicly-unreported witness statements and other evidence relating to 7/7, Tony found that he could only conclude that the official 7/7 narrative was ?a monstrous lie.? Instead of the official ?suicide bombers? narrative, which he and all of his colleagues had believed without question, he realized that the weight of evidence strongly points far more towards 7/7 being an event stage-managed by British intelligence than anything else."

Watch an interview with Tony Farrell and read the rest of the article:
www.veteranstoday.com/2011/07/10/uk-police-intel-expert-government-not-islam-real-terror-threat/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=uk-police-intel-expert-government-not-islam-real-terror-threat

I'm not going to waste my time on answering dimwitted lowbrows who churn out all the usual cliches about "tinfoil hats" and "turquoise tracksuits". I despise people like you, who try to bully anyone brave enough to be different. It is the people who are different that make the world a better place. Imagine if we were all like you -- spinelessly following the herd, abusing anyone who says things that sound odd to you.

The Financial Times ran a story, years ago, examining the WTC controlled demolition "theory". They seemed to give it credence. But everyone knows, the FT's target audience are tinfoil-hatted clowns in turquoise tracksuits.

^^ ta da, and there is the emotional investment reaction discussed upthread.

Not agreeing with the ct is experienced as 'bullying' and the ct believer feels themselves to be one of 'the brave' who 'dare to be different'. You can see why that is a reasurring place to find oneself after a long time of feeling like an outsider because the world seems to be a vaguely threatening and inexplicable place.

Cts also promise order on the chaos. Someone is in charge, however nefarious. If you don't fit in or get on, it's not your fault. It's the Powers That Be. You're not a failure- you're just enlightened about how it all really works, a truth seeker. The more you are mocked, the more the ct explanation is clung to. There's a hell of a lot riding on it

In my experience the conspiracy theorist won't talk about why they feel as they do: if pressed they will only ever say'but look at the EVIDENCE' and start cut and paste oddyseys. If you get drawn into the minutiae they are pleased, because they can nitpick for Britain and spend hours discussing tiny details, making patterns, and ignoring any detail or bigger picture that doesn't chime with their worldview.

There's always heaps of little inconsistencies in any rolling multisourced news story, always a few witnesses who don't quite chime withwhat most people report...and from here the ct is powered, fuelled by tiny anomalies and the willing belief of those looking for another explanation to the 'official' one...

The other thing you won't get is much empathy for human side of the story. After the bomb explodes, the plane crashes, the body is found, all responding are just accounts to pick over looking for anomalies. Rescue workers, survivors and bereaved relatives are all grist to the ct mill, and often called out as liars or plants if what they say doesn't fit the conspiracy theorists own view .

This last bit is what really pisses me off about arguing with conspialoons.

Love the poem!

Edmonds revealed information about extraordinary corruption and criminal activity at the top levels of the US establishment. In this interview, she discusses top neocons preparing to carve up Iraq four months before 9/11.

This was not secret, nor is it evidence that 9/11 was not what it appeared to be. Neo-con circles discussed another war in Iraq to finish the job Bush I started openly from the very end of the first Gulf war.

Miffster-bang on re emotional reaction!

You've made some interesting points Miffster about the emotional investment of the CTist, and the concentration on detail.

I think Kirkum 's "I despise people like you, who try to bully anyone brave enough to be different." says it all with regards to his ability to debate/listen.

this is an aside now, but I'm always being told off for seeing conspiracies everywhere
I've spent the last two years banging on about the news of the world cover up by the met for example
and sadly it is often the case that governments are quite willing to sacrifice large numbers of their own people or another country's 'for the greater good', which usually turns out to be some mad crackpot scheme or other

who'd have thought that the US would be quite happy to run a dodgy vaccination programme in Pakistan this year for example? only the 'conspiraloons' who probably weren't surprised at all

that's the trouble with being paranoid - it doesn't always mean they're not out to get you

Well said, mercibucket. There are conspiracies right under our noses. The phone hacking scandal was uncovered, what remains still to be discovered?

The 'dodgy dossier' wasn't a conspiracy, and Tony Blair doesn't believe in conspiracy theories

'Speaking on Fox News he said critics of the war were obsessed with conspiracy theories, and refused to accept that his motives were 'genuine'.
Asked about why the inquiry was being held he said: 'There's always got to be a scandal as to why you hold your view.
'There's got to be some conspiracy behind it. Some great, you know, deceit that's gone on, and people just find it hard to understand that it's possible for people to have different points of view and hold them reasonably for genuine reasons.'

Look at Blair's smile. If that's not a conspiracy against his face, I don't know what is.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1249450/Iraq-War-Inquiry-Tony-Blair-attacks-conspiracy-theories.html

that's a great smile - how could you not trust that man, I ask you?!?

Read the comments of ordinary Mail readers. They don't believe Blair's views on 'conspiracy theories' and his 'genuine' motives.

Yes, it's Teflon Tony, trained to smile on cue. But sometimes the mask slipped.

Oh, there are and always will be conspiracies. People conspiring for advantage and seeking to cover up their actions or motives. Sometimes conspiracy theorists even stumble upon some of the truth!

But I'm often surprised by how closed minded the CT aficionado is to the idea that the simplest, most well sourced explanation is the truth. In the case of 7/7, four men, trained in extremist camps, believers in an extreme death fetishising ideology, part of a cult like group practising paranoid and angry groupthink, committed murder-suicide in the rush hour.

I draw a distinction between Islam and the twisted hate cult beliefs of the perpetrators, just in case anyone starts. Their beliefs and behaviour were not Islamic no matter what they said or thought in self justification.

Miffster, it would help if you could define which official version is the one we are meant to believe :). Take the case of the Flight 77 cell phones, for example. Originally we were fed the story that Barbara Olson called her husband several times from the hijacked plane and told her husband they'd been hijacked by Arabs armed with box cutters.

The official position of the FBI is now that there were no cell calls from Flight 77.
FBI: 9/11 cell phone calls from jets did not happen
Ted Olson's Report of Phone Calls from Barbara Olson on 9/11: Three Official Denials

So you tell me -- which story here is "the simplest, most well sourced explanation"? We have two official stories which fundamentally contradict one another. Hmm, doublethink, anyone? the act of simultaneously accepting two mutually contradictory beliefs as correct

Why are you going on about Flight 77 now? Can't you stick with one subject for five minutes? I thought you were trying to convince us that the 7/7 bombers were all a put up job? Those noble guys, sacrificing their lives for the greater glory that was His Majesty T Blair.... Or is this a thread trying to make out that because one piece of information in one conspiracy theory on one occasion turns out to be valid, all other conspiracy theories are therefore true? Because, if it is, that would be really stupid....

Cogito, all you've done so far is indulge in namecalling. Come up with an intelligent question and I'll answer it. :)

Is that Mr Pot? I think there's a Mr Kettle on the line..... something about 'black'?

TheJoyfulPuddlejumper, ok then, I'll engage, if we can keep it civil please :).

In response to your questions: Sibel Edmonds rose to prominence when she spoke out against Condoleeza Rice's claims that the US authorities had no warnings pre-9/11. I was genuinely surprised that commenters here had never heard of her. But fair enough :).

Yes, she was hired shortly after 9/11, for the purpose of translating and monitoring pre-9/11 intelligence:

"The FBI hires Turkish-American Sibel Edmonds as a contract translator for Turkish, Azerbaijani, and Farsi. In the wake of the 9/11 attacks, the FBI is desperately seeking qualified individuals to translate backlogged wiretaps and help authorities interview detained suspects. ... Almost 75 percent of her work will relate to pre-9/11 intelligence." See here

She revealed a lot of inside information -- the picture that emerges of the FBI and top figures in the US establishment is corrupt and criminal beyond belief. And a lot of the information around 9/11 stinks.

"Sibel Edmonds writes a blistering critique of the 9/11 Commission?s final report in a letter to the commission?s chairman Thomas Kean. She says the commission failed to investigate and report the information she provided in February (see February 11, 2004) regarding the problems she witnessed while working as a contract translator in the FBI?s translation unit. She also explains why she thinks the attacks were not stopped and why the government will not prevent future attacks. ?If Counterintelligence receives information that contains money laundering, illegal arms sale, and illegal drug activities, directly linked to terrorist activities; and if that information involves certain nations, certain semi-legit organizations, and ties to certain lucrative or political relations in this country, then, that information is not shared with Counterterrorism, regardless of the possible severe consequences. In certain cases, frustrated FBI agents cited ?direct pressure by the State Department,? and in other cases ?sensitive diplomatic relations? is cited.? Your hearings did not include questions regarding these unspoken and unwritten policies and practices. Despite your full awareness and understanding of certain criminal conduct that connects to certain terrorist related activities, committed by certain US officials and high-level government employees, you have not proposed criminal investigations into this conduct, although under the laws of this country you are required to do so. How can budget increases address and resolve these problems, when some of them are caused by unspoken practices and unwritten policies??"

www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?projects_and_programs=sibelEdmonds&timeline=complete_911_timeline
www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0408/S00012.htm

That's not a debate, that's just copy/pasting..... lazy, lazy, lazy....