Top intelligence analyst for Yorkshire police says 7/7 was false flag

[Kurkum]

Top police intelligence whistleblower is sacked for reporting to his seniors that 7/7 has the hallmarks of state terrorism.

"Tony Farrell had been employed for twelve years as ?Principle Intelligence Analyst? for South Yorkshire Police, 13th largest of the 44 police forces in the UK. His job involved producing a yearly ?Strategic Threat Assessment Matrix? to determine how the police force had to prioritise its activities.

Assessed ?threats? ranged from ASBOs (anti-social behaviour orders) to the terrorist threat presented by local mosques. Having a statistics degree, it was his job to translate the different ?strategic threats? into a ?matrix? of relative numerical weighted probabilities.

In 2010, one week before the 5th anniversary of 7/7, Tony (who had never previously doubted government versions of events) stumbled across ?9/11 Truth? material on the web. Like so many millions before him, he was shocked to the core by this experience. He quickly realised that there was a great mass of evidence relating to 9/11 kept hidden by the mainstream media. As a Christian, Tony consulted his church minister, who suggested that he consider, whether the same might be true for the London 7/7 bombings?

Something he had not suspected ?in his wildest dreams? then started to unfold. After reading much of the available but publicly-unreported witness statements and other evidence relating to 7/7, Tony found that he could only conclude that the official 7/7 narrative was ?a monstrous lie.? Instead of the official ?suicide bombers? narrative, which he and all of his colleagues had believed without question, he realized that the weight of evidence strongly points far more towards 7/7 being an event stage-managed by British intelligence than anything else."

Watch an interview with Tony Farrell and read the rest of the article:
www.veteranstoday.com/2011/07/10/uk-police-intel-expert-government-not-islam-real-terror-threat/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=uk-police-intel-expert-government-not-islam-real-terror-threat

And a quick google could have told you that.

Oh dear Kurkum... of course I know alcohol & pork are forbidden under islam. Same as sexual intercourse is forbidden for catholic priests...... Doesn't actually mean all of them never enjoy the forbidden, does it? After all, what is 'normal behaviour' for a man about to fly a plane into a building and kill himself?

If your agrument that 9/11 was a put up job rests on the flawed logic that 'muslims never touch alcohol, he drank vodka, therefore he must have been a CIA stooge' (or whatever you think he was)... then it doesn't really hang together.

Get a room, you two.

OK, so we have Mohammed Atta 1, who is described as shy and gentle, has a terrible fear of flying, and has his passport stolen in Germany in 1999. Mohammed Atta 1 phoned his father on 12 September 2001.

Then we have Mohammed Atta 2, who is a vodka-swilling, coke-snorting playboy who frequents strip joints, eats pork chops, wears silk shirts and gold jewellery -- both strictly forbidden for men in Islam.

Next we have the Muslim Brotherhood. The Muslim Brotherhood is an Egyptian movement with a fanatical hatred of the decadence of Western society, which they see as a corrupting influence. Their vision of Islam is strict and puritanical. According to the official story, Mohammed Atta is a member of the Muslim Brotherhood.

Your problem, with all due respect, Cogito, is you are ignorant. You have never really researched the facts. So you're talking from a position of ignorance. Did you know, for example, that George W Bush ordered the original FBI investigation to be halted, in order to focus resources on the anthrax threat? And the investigation was never reopened? Did you know that Jeb Bush personally ran away with confiscated evidence from Mohammed Atta's flight school? Or that the flight school's owner, a friend of Jeb's, is tangled up in heroin smuggling?

So why not do a little research. You were lied to on the Weapons of Mass Destruction, after all. Who's to say you're not being lied to again?

You can start off by watching this excellent investigative documentary:

There appears to be a 7/7 survivor on the thread, I notice you have gone quiet on the subject of 7/7' which is odd considering your OP. Are you about to tell her to watch some Internet video to discover the truth?

See mollie on 17.38 on Thursday.

Sorry to hear of your experiences mollieo, hope you are/ were ok.

Miffster:
Are you suggesting that it is disrespectful towards 9/11 survivors to reopen the FBI's criminal investigation which was halted by GBW for reasons known only unto him?

Do victims of crimes no longer have a right to criminal investigations? Do they not have a right to know why Jeb Bush confiscated vital evidence within 24 hours of 9/11 occuring? Do they not have a right to know why GW Bush had the molten metal which could have been tested for traces of explosives, putting all "conspiracy theories" to rest shipped to China? It is illegal to remove evidence from the scene of a crime.

Are you going to tell us what you think happened on 7/7? Since your thread title raises it?

Are you going to suggest to someone who was actually there that she needs to undertake further 'research'?

Put 9/11 to one side for a moment and answer the 7/7 questions if you'd be so kind. You seem to think 9/11 was aninside job but have said nothing re 7/7 so why the thread title?

Thought not. This is just standard nineelevenproselytising. With a July 7 'hook'
in the op to try to wheel uk posters into debating the same tired old conspiracy website tropes
that always get wheeled out by inside
job evangelists . It's
like debating with a religious door
stopper. Pointless and ultimately boring.

Miffster, this is what a bus blown up by a suicide bomber looks like:

Bus 1

Bus 2

Bus 3

And here is a photo of the 7/7 bus:

No 30 bus

Why does it look so weirdly clean-cut? Why has there been no explanation for this? Remember this is supposedly a homemade bomb made from chappati flour and hair bleach.

Oh ffs. You're one of those who thinks the bus explosion was faked? How appalling.

Explosives expert Clifford Todd gave sworn evidence re bombs make up and there had just been an inquest. Go read up.

And what is a suicide bomber on his way to meet his death carrying a plastic bag for? news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/05/uk_enl_1121560562/html/1.stm And why did they buy return tickets? And why was one of them in the middle of a course of driving lessons? And how could they have arrived in London on a train that was delayed and mucked up the official timeline?

And the questions go on and on and on. Because the official version is riddled with holes.

Has not had

And don't swear at me.

The train time was corrected, see Reid house of commons statement. You are on very thin ice. What do you think happened for goodness sake ? The victims police rescuers are all lying?

FFS, that's a photo taken long after the bomb went off on the bus, once the emergency services had been in and cut away a lot of the shell to get at people. You only have to look at the first page of google images of 7/7 to see contemporaneous pics taken just after the explosion. The remains of the bus are far more 'jagged', there are huge amounts of debris on the ground and on neighbouring vehicles. There are pics of the outside of the BMA, with lumps of human flesh and blood on the walls.

I have a work colleague who was actually at the bus stop and saw the damn thing blow up.

And another thing, those Islamist suicide bombers that you think are innocent recorded martyrdom videos - although I bet you've got a conspiracy theory about all of those as well.

No alternate explanation will of course be proffered, just a lot of silly questions. Because that is what conspiracy theory people love, all the questions, never the answers. Trying to get them to answer ' what do you think went on if you don't believe what has been reported?' will of course be met by wriggling and repetition of 'cui bono' and other cliched phrases beloved of the conspiracy mindset.

Still. I repeat. What is your explanation for the events of 7 July 2005 if not 4 suicide bombers, please?

Kurkum - what is your aim in starting this thread?

It seems like you want everyone to say that every conspiracy theory you mention is true! Stick to one, and provide hard facts rather than quotes from dubious websites.

No-one claims that the govt doesn't cover up facts occasionally, eg re motivations for invading Iraq - it's hardly the same as wilfully killing its own citizens.

Well, we're all on a thread asking Kurkum questions and on some level (however hostile) paying attention to his/her views. So by starting a thread and claiming arcane knowlege K gets to look all important and be the centre of attention. The posts don't make sense because they don't need to. it's not about the thesis, it's about the drama.

True. Tiresome thread is tiresome. And in poor taste , and not news and adds nothing to debate.

I am sincerely sorry if this is disturbing information, but the official version is a physical impossibility. Read this:

"Was any train feasible? Let us consider an earlier train, which left Luton station at 07.25, and arrived into King?s Cross Thameslink at 08.23 am; thus, its journey took 58 minutes. This scenario would give the four young men barely three minutes to walk up the stairs at Luton, buy their tickets in the morning rush-hour and then get to the platform. Some have suggested that Lindsay German from Aylesbury had arrived early and bought the four tickets in advance (day-returns at 22 pounds each), to make this feasible. But, from King?s Cross Thameslink, it takes a good seven minutes to walk through the long, Underground tube passage which includes a ticket barrier, to reach the main King?s Cross station, in the morning rush-hour with large rucksacks ? in no way could they have been captured on the 08.26am alleged CCTV picture.

Thus, no train that morning is capable of getting a passenger into both of the CCTV images. This could be part of the reason why the police can never release the images they claim to have, of the four at King?s Cross.

This major breakdown of the official story came about through the testimony of a commuter who wished to remain anonymous: she arrived at Luton station that morning at 7.25am, and testified that she had no train to catch until 7.58am, because the 7.30am and 7.40am trains from Luton were cancelled on July 7th. She could only get a slow train at 7.58am from platform 3 to King's Cross, which didn't arrive there until 8.43am. It was so packed that many could not get onto the train at Luton*. (The 07.30 was delayed in arriving into Luton that morning and came into platform 4, whereas the London trains normally come to platforms 1 or 3, which is why she believed it had been cancelled.)"

julyseventh.co.uk/july-7-luton-kings-cross-train-times.html

When someone can explain cogently which train they caught and how they could possibly have made it in time to carry out the attacks, then we can discuss this further.

I've been reading this thread with amazement.

The statements in the House in July 2006 about the train times deal with the train times. It was a Home Office collating error FFS - thoroughly explained.

Kurkum, what's your explanation for why the bus blown up on 7/7 doesn't look like you expect it to?