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T.M.I. =Sex Education for under year 5 and 6 in Primary Schools

158 replies

Poeteats4gals · 07/07/2011 01:51

Hi fellow passionate Mums!!!

Sex Education is not mandatory ...yet. Perhaps September. Parents have many legal rights in this area. They have a legal right to ask for The Sex Education Policy for the school and to scrutinise it and to ask to see DVD's and they have the right to withdraw their children to go swimming as I did today.

If your child is disturbed in any way by the Sex Ed. materials used in the school you can take your child for counselling and have same recorded by your G.P. and seek legal advice. Groups of parents can go to a solicitor especially if you were not informed. The law after all is there ,supposedly , to protect the innocent...our children whom we entrust to be educated.

Schools telling little kids about Sex Ed.is a bit like schools telling them about the tooth fairy or Santa without telling parents. It deskills us as parents and gives kids too much information , too young...what do you think?

The kids chat about things they don't need to know, simply because they are being taught. It's the Garden Of Eden ....all over again ...knowledge!

How about reading , writing , Maths and leaving Sex Ed to us?

WE so know the stage our kids are at!
Anyway ..has Sex Ed. worked to bring down STD's or teenage pregnancy rates?

Let's have some teaching on self esteem
and gift and talent awareness instead that g further in schools that an e mail and a course at a weekend when its down family time.

We know our kids best in this oversexualised culture and this is best to come from parents as and when it comes up..What do you think?

OP posts:
piprabbit · 07/07/2011 11:54

Swimming as an alternative to sex education Hmm.

JenaiMarrHePlaysGuitar · 07/07/2011 12:03

Apiphobia or melissophobia according to Wiki, Ironing

Grin tethers. I also like "It's the Garden Of Eden ....all over again ...knowledge!"

Watch out for snakes. And apples.

seeker · 07/07/2011 12:07

Don;t engage - she's not a real person, she's a pressure group.

notso · 07/07/2011 12:11

I am struggling to make sense of your posts OP, that second to last paragraph on your first post is nonsense.

JenaiMarrHePlaysGuitar · 07/07/2011 12:12

They're not very good though are they, seeker.

What on earth makes them think anyone would be won over by such utter tish-toshery? Confused

BitOfFun · 07/07/2011 12:19

Where is the T.M.I? Is it the word "sex"?

BitOfFun · 07/07/2011 12:20

Bum. Willies.

feckwit · 07/07/2011 12:21

Nope.

I have read your second post about three times and I still can't follow it.

Is this a quiz? Did you write down your thoughts and then jumble the paragraphs and we need to order them correctly and then it will all become clear?

seeker · 07/07/2011 12:23

Swimming instead of sex education?

Well, I suppose a cold shower is always an option.......

TobyLerone · 07/07/2011 12:23

If I say 'cunt', will that be TMI?

mummytime · 07/07/2011 12:23

My DCs school did use a DVD at one point which had the word "wanking" in it, I think it was some teenagers chatting. As it was a great resource otherwise, a teacher just coughed to cover the word up. (I knew this word before 10, didn't have a clue what it meant until 14, did know what masturbation was though.)

seeker · 07/07/2011 12:24

Oh, and in case anybody is daft enough to take the OP seriously, the word "wank" does not appear in materials intended for primary schools.

tethersend · 07/07/2011 12:24

If anything, this whole thread contains TLI...

Littlefish · 07/07/2011 12:27

OP - do the responses on this thread help you to understand that are clearly in the minority and that your views are completely out of step with the users of this site.

NerfHerder · 07/07/2011 12:31

I am a firm believer in compulsory sex and relationships education for all before secondary school.

Some children enter puberty very early (maybe starting periods at 9) and some parents just do not talk to their children about these matters.

Knowing what is happening to their bodies goes a long way to removing fear and stigma for children who live in households where these matters are still taboo. I also think it is important for children to know that somethings are private, and not for others to touch/take without permission; I think there are actually more than a few children in vulnerable situations that will be helped to speak out by knowing about these matters.

piprabbit · 07/07/2011 12:34

If the OPs posts are indicitive of their normal lucid though processes, then the mind boggles at how on earth they would even attempt to explain sex to their own children.

"Well darling, there are bees. There were bees in Eden. And apples. Oh and snakes of course. And, um, well.
Any how, men have a sticky out bit. Yes, you do to. Yes, but you mustn't touch it. Or look at it. It might drop off.
And ladies have an inny bit. No, we don't have a word for that. No, we don't mention it at all.
Um, I hope that is clear.
Shall we go swimming?"

CrapolaDeVille · 07/07/2011 12:34

I'm just going to sit down and watch porn with the two youngest dcs.....we're going to have a frank and open discussion about lesbian sex and anal today. I borrowed it from our local primary school.....

PerAr6ua · 07/07/2011 12:35

Barking. Just barking.

I need the teachers to give the proper facts to DS because frankly he glazes over when I explain anything...

PerAr6ua · 07/07/2011 12:36

Should we also be worrying about compulsory maths teaching in school?

PatriciaHolm · 07/07/2011 12:48

Is there something is the air at the moment? What with this and the "smear tests are all about subjugating women by penetrating them with metal objects" thread yesterday, our Loon quota seems well up this week...

TheRhubarb · 07/07/2011 12:57

I saw the DVDs that the school were showing from Year 2 upwards.

I withdrew my children.

It is irresponsible, imo, to tell children how to masturbate and have sex without teaching them about personal safety, that it is illegal and about self respect and relationships.

DVD1 for Year 2 told how it feels nice for a girl to touch herself.
DVD2 told how a girls bits can get hard if she rubs them.
DVD3 says that boys masturbation is referred to as wanking.

Only in DVD3 does it briefly mention that you should not have sex until you are 16. It does not talk about peer pressure, or self respect, or love.
None of the DVDs talk about personal safety and what to do if you are made to feel uncomfortable.

What has happened now is that many parents don't have the sex ed discussions with their children because the school will do it for them. They don't bother to watch the DVDs, they just trust that it will teach them everything they need to know.

Every child is different and is ready to process certain information in different ways and at different times. I know that my ds is less ready to hear these things than my dd was at the same age. So because I know my children I am the best person to ascertain when they should be told what.

I have no problems with the school discussing body issues, relationships and sex so long as they also tackle safety, pressure and self respect. I deplore the fact that my control over my children will be diminshed by the government.

At the moment parents can take their children out of RE lessons and even morning prayers, but if the government get their way I will not be able to take my child out of a sex ed lesson and that is completely against my right as their parent.

TheRhubarb · 07/07/2011 12:59

And I don't care if she's a pressure group, this should be open for discussion.

piprabbit · 07/07/2011 13:00

Parents have as much right to withdraw their children from sex education lessons as they do to withdraw them from maths, literacy and PE.

It's called home education and is the best way to ensure that the government doesn't diminish your "control over your children" (Hmm).

motherinferior · 07/07/2011 13:04

I was asked to comment on the school's sex ed policy in a survey recently.

I said I thought we needed more of it, really, as much as possible.

And I've said before that my just-turned-eight-year old seems utterly unscathed by reading her sister's What's Happening To My Body book. No inappropriate scenarios with her build-a-bears at all.

TheRhubarb · 07/07/2011 13:08

MI, I have spoken to my kids about sex. It is nothing to be ashamed of. However I know that I also tell them about self respect and how they shouldn't have sex before the age of 16.

I resent the fact that the school will often tell them how to do sex and how contraception works, but will not teach them about safety.

Same with cervical cancer jabs. Girls are given the jab but not told what cervical cancer is or how it is contracted.

This is about giving them some pieces of the jigsaw and not bothering with the rest.

I strongly believe that a school should be there to educate on biology, history, English, maths etc but that when it comes to personal relationships and sex, parents should have the final say. Certainly the government should NOT be taking away parental control over such an issue.