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Explicit Sex Ed material for 5 years olds!!!

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vintageteacups · 09/03/2011 10:02

sex ed for 5 years olds

I think this is extremely wrong on so many levels. Would you seriously like your 5 yr olds to be told about sex like this???

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Bubbaluv · 09/03/2011 23:35

How is information rape?

AyeRobot · 09/03/2011 23:35

hmmm

We've got a live one here.

BaroqueAroundTheClock · 09/03/2011 23:36

Pixie - my eldest is 10 1/2 - and he is developing an interest in the girls (And they in him from what I can gather when we're in town and gaggles of girls are waving to him and calling his name Grin).

PixieOnaLeaf · 09/03/2011 23:37

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majordanjarvis · 09/03/2011 23:38

Anything other than total condemnation of under-age sex is condoning it, in my view.

If you're not part of the solution then you're part of the problem, in my view.

PixieOnaLeaf · 09/03/2011 23:38

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majordanjarvis · 09/03/2011 23:39

PixieOnALeaf - you make my point nicely.

PixieOnaLeaf · 09/03/2011 23:40

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BaroqueAroundTheClock · 09/03/2011 23:41

WTF!?!?!

Bubbaluv · 09/03/2011 23:41

Teaching how reproduction works is not condoning under-age sex surely?

PixieOnaLeaf · 09/03/2011 23:42

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BaroqueAroundTheClock · 09/03/2011 23:44

no niether am I Pixie.

The point I see pixie making is that once boys and girls hit puberty they have natural biological instincts to do stuff. To explore those sexual urges they're having........and yes - may even have biological tick telling them "go forth and pro-create". Waiting until 15 to tell them the basics............including all the things which seeker copied and pasted above which are covered from ages 3-6 is rather like closing the stable door once the horse has bolted.

In the same way that tween and teenagers will masturbate.........some of them will also go much further with a member of the opposite sex who is also going through the exact same transition period as them.

PixieOnaLeaf · 09/03/2011 23:46

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BaroqueAroundTheClock · 09/03/2011 23:53

I think so Pixie.

Actually on a slightly different note - just been thinking about the images in the first link with the couple kissing, and the 2 couples having sex in "different" positions, and the discussion further on in this thread about teaching children about healthy relationships, and DV etc. There is actually a very positive underlying message in those pictures (imo) - which sadly many children won't see at home from their parents. And that is that sex (and indeed the entire relationship) between consenting adults should be loving, and enjoyable and yes, perhaps even fun.

PixieOnaLeaf · 09/03/2011 23:59

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vintageteacups · 10/03/2011 07:42

So, some of this material might well be inappropriate for 5 year olds. But that's OK, because they are not going to see it!

Except..... if you're 7 and go to a primary in Lincolnshire Hmm

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vintageteacups · 10/03/2011 07:43

Hmm something went wrong there with my bolding Grin

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majordanjarvis · 10/03/2011 07:46

I disagree that this sort of thing should be left to teachers. Parents should teach their children about the facts of life.

vintageteacups · 10/03/2011 07:47

whoever said, earlier in the thread, about "well, it's nothing I'm sure they haven't seen their parents doing in the bedroom"

or something along those line........our kids have never walked in to our room like that. And if they did, I wouldn't want them to have a clue what we were doing.

How old were the people who agree with sex ed at age 5-7 had sex below the age of 16? (just out of interest?)

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exoticfruits · 10/03/2011 07:57

The whole problem.majordanjarvis, is that although they should, many don't.

majordanjarvis · 10/03/2011 08:03

exoticfruits - ah, the final recourse of every 'well-meaning' liberal intervention by the State!!

If we treat people as adults, they will behave as such. If the State steps in and provides a service/guidance/tuition etc, it recuces the need/requirement/responsibility for people to to do so for themselves.

My daughter will be taught by her parents...before she has to put up with some embarrassed and reluctant teacher attempting to do the same.

exoticfruits · 10/03/2011 08:20

I agree entirely majordan-however in practice it leaves many teenagers without basic instruction. You now have to throw into the mix that they don't have to get it from friends in the playground, but they can get google anything they want and think it is normal! Much better to give everyone the facts at school-and not all teachers are embarrassed or reluctant-my biology teacher wasn't -and that was many years ago.

exoticfruits · 10/03/2011 08:22

I don't think that you can control exactly what your DC is taught-unless you are with her every moment as she gets older! There are friends, there are friend's computers and friends with lax parents.

Himalaya · 10/03/2011 08:22

I'm not keen on 'mummy laid an egg' . It's ok as a fun book if they already know the facts, but as an introduction to the subject I think it's confusing.

Mine had SRE in year 2, using the channel 4 book. Lots about naming of parts etc... Some parents objeected to the fact that it included 'clitoris'! Hmm

exoticfruits · 10/03/2011 08:32

Parents are not always the best-my mother started off when I was very young (before the book that I haven't seen)with 'mummy and an egg' and I assumed that all women had eggs inside and I worried that I would have lots and have to have lots of children-or none-I thought that 2 was a good number at the time, but it was a bit like the lottery!