Court backs decision to bar Christian foster couple

[hymie]

Should Christians be stopped from fostering because of their faith/belief?

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LoopyLoopsHulaHoops
I'm going to ignore the OP's posts as she's clearly high on crack

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You obviously assume too much.

What makes you decide that i'm a Woman?

Loopy by name ehh?

still no answer to my question. i knew i was asking too much. i don't think he/she understands the concept of answering a question with information or opinion that is relevant to the question asked.

StewieGriffinsMom

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You lost me when you started to rant about spousal abuse.

But I suspect you even lost yourself there.

Get over it Boo...i'm not here to reply to your footstamping and demanding.

I have made my position clear.

You don't like it?

That's tough.

actually, you haven't made anything clear at all. you are unable to clarify what your thoughts on this issue is.

I am a Christian. I adopted through a borough known for its 'loony leftness'

They had no issue with my proposal to take my DS to church regularly and bring him up in the faith.

I was open from the start and they didnt bat an eyelid.

But then I am not a rabid old homophobe who hides behind my religion.

let's rewind a mo

OP said:

Should Christians be stopped from fostering because of their faith/belief?

The MN Massive said no, but homophobes should

there isn't any subtlety in your rant SGM.

It had no context in this discussion you used it as a platform for your feminist fervor.

That point is completely devoid of reason and it's a mentally imbalanced state of mind (In my opinion)

You've got issues.

Ignoring a lot of the other conversation... whatever a person's beliefs, I don't understand why anyone would feel they have the right to bring a child up in them when the people who have parental responsibility for the child do not want them to. If I babysat for a parent, I would by and large respect the parents' wishes regarding what I could and couldn't say or do in their presence. Why should it be any different if you are looking after children on behalf of the state. If it's your own child - whatever. Personally I think it's sad when children are brought up in homophobic environments, but I also believe in parental prerogatives and don't want to dictate what goes on in private homes.

And as a previous poster said, children in care are amongst the most vulnerable. And lgbt adolescents often suffer a lot more from lack of self-esteem and self-harm - why would the state put an already vulnerable child somewhere where they might end up suffering more?

What if a Christian/Muslim/Hindu couple refused to accept that mixed relationships, allowing disabled people to live independantly etc was normal or acceptable?

Would anyone be sticking up for their right to foster vunerable children?

I bloody hope not.

thefirstMrsDeVere
What if a Christian/Muslim/Hindu couple refused to accept that mixed relationships, allowing disabled people to live independantly etc was normal or acceptable?

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I would think that Muslims certainly adopt and their views maybe just that.

But they would probably be allowed to adopt because it's part of their culture?

• Want to add: I don't think the problem is their Christianity but their views on homosexuality.

I have to say that I would also hope that a couple who were totally against all religion to the point that a child felt they could never express their beliefs or follow a religion would also come across problems when trying to foster.

hymie Mon 28-Feb-11 21:37:22

"Ohh...that's an insult." - be insulted as you like. It's also the truth.

"Are you going to subjugate children into YOUR way of thinking?"

Of course not. Are you?

Have you been through the adoption process Hymie? Do you have any experience of what it involves?

StewieGriffinsMom
Except you are the one that no one can understand.

I suspect you are trolling as well. No one posts this incoherently on purpose.

No one ?

Are you sure about that?

Your post about battered spouses was a rant to the wall of apathy, nobody listened.

I am neither incoherent nor affected by your views.

As for being a Troll...read the rules about trollhunting.

Whats 'MY' way of thinking Mumi?

Enlighten me seeing as we're in a sharing moment?

Have you?

Have you Devere?

Does that qualify your opinion in any way?

have you read devere's post?

"I am a Christian. I adopted through a borough known for its 'loony leftness'

They had no issue with my proposal to take my DS to church regularly and bring him up in the faith.

I was open from the start and they didnt bat an eyelid.

But then I am not a rabid old homophobe who hides behind my religion."

Point a thread out SGM?

the feminist board must be dead if you're on here spouting tosh.

"Religious care homes are Homophobic by nature"

I don't know why you are banging on about religious care homes as if its either relevent or I am in charge of them but imo they aren't homophobic by nature, any more than religious people are homophobic by nature and non religious people aren't. More importantly for this debate the people who work in care homes are not allowed to tell children in their care that homosexuality is wrong. I didn't say that homophobic care homes exist and they should be packed to the rafters with vunerable children. I politely pointed out that your arguement that bigots should be able to foster because religious care homes exist makes no sense. The link between being bigoted and being religious only exists when bigots use religion as a validation for their hatred, not because its actually part of someones faith. The link between being homophobic and being a paedophile is lost on me too.

"Do you agree that children should be sent to one of those?"

I don't agree that children should be sent anywhere where they will be abused but if you think that abuse occurs in all religious care homes and never occurs in secular care homes and foster homes then you are even more crazy than I thought. Loads of children are abused in foster care and care homes. Are you defending abuse by acknowledging that care homes and foster homes exist? Its important that SS weed out the obvious extremist nut jobs in the vetting process, wouldn't you agree?

BooyFuckingHoo
have you read devere's post?

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Some people would say that Christians shouldn't adopt.

Another poster on here asked if Muslims should be able to adopt because of their marriage views.

What sort of Christian are you?

Catholic/Protestant/ any of the satellite faiths?