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Court backs decision to bar Christian foster couple

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hymie · 28/02/2011 16:51

Should Christians be stopped from fostering because of their faith/belief?

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BooyFuckingHoo · 28/02/2011 21:20

"Would anyone pro-actively say that a homosexual lifestyle was good"

yes why wouldn't i?

hymie · 28/02/2011 21:20

I don't really care if you don't like the term I used...it's not offensive.

But feel free to be offended and i'll feel free not to be apologetic for your own offence.

I'll say this again.

How many major religions are 'Homophobic'?

Yet 'Religious' people still adopt.

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balloonballs · 28/02/2011 21:22

Your flogging a dead horse, it's not that people need more and more explanations of your opinion.

It's that your wrong.

hymie · 28/02/2011 21:23

If you're a Christian then you're wrong too.

Or are you just cherry picking what your faith is telling you?

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AMumInScotland · 28/02/2011 21:25

So, do you think that homosexuality is a choice then? I'm not "offended" by your term, I merely think it is inaccurate.

BooyFuckingHoo · 28/02/2011 21:25

"Would anyone pro-actively say that a homosexual lifestyle was good"

yes why wouldn't i?

StewieGriffinsMom · 28/02/2011 21:25

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Mumi · 28/02/2011 21:27

"children shouldn't have to deal with that stigma either should they?"

They wouldn't have to if it wasn't perpetuated by people like you.

AMumInScotland · 28/02/2011 21:27

Oh brilliant, now we get the "you can't really be a Christian if you don't follow the teachings of the Old Testament" argument. I don't hate homosexuality. I also eat cheeseburgers while wearing a polycotton shirt, both of which are forbidden by Leviticus. I haven't sacrificed any doves lately either, come to think of it. Well there you go, that proves I'm just "cherry-picking" doesn't it.

rightpissedoff · 28/02/2011 21:28

I think this is wrong, the world is a mix. The children will be exposed to a different view as they grow up, without a doubt. They ought also to be exposed to this one, I suppose! Plenty of children rebel and break away. This seems over the top to me.

straightbat · 28/02/2011 21:28

"Is the definition and teaching of being White/Male/Straight in a proud sense more destructive as the Black/Female/gay mantra?"

I think it is due to what happens historically when white/male/straight persons let their 'pride' spill over into violent genocide. In general taking pride in being black/female/gay is about overcoming adversity as a people in relatively recent history (ie living memory). My grandmother was a suffragette. I am proud of her for fighting that fight and I am personally grateful for it. I do not feel similar pride for my perfectly nice white/male/straight grandfather because he was born top of the heap so didn't have to battle in the way women of his generation did. If all you are presented with are white/male/straight heroes are role models them along comes Emmiline Pankhurst or Rosa Parks then its natural to be proud that 'a woman like me' or 'a black woman like me' changed history.

hymie · 28/02/2011 21:30

StewieGriffinsMom

I'm not a Christian and this isn't the Feminism board, whatever you're going on about mentioning rape and daughters is beyond me.

The couple stated that they wouldn't promote the lifestyle...obviously social services took issue with that.

Would they take issue with other REAL Christians too?

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balloonballs · 28/02/2011 21:31

That's right I cherry pick, and I sincerely hope you are also for all the reasons above.

eviscerateyourmemory · 28/02/2011 21:32

They were not asked to promote the 'lifestyle' Hmm. Just not to act as if it was inferior.

hymie · 28/02/2011 21:33

I think it is due to what happens historically when white/male/straight persons let their 'pride' spill over into violent genocide.

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Maybe you haven't heard the news?

Rwanda
Congo
Cambodia

That's a stereotypical response from the PC brigade when it comes down to anything not fitting into the non minority agenda.

Genocides have happened on ALL continents, more recently in Africa and asia.

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scurryfunge · 28/02/2011 21:33

Children in care have enough to deal with and can do without vile opinions that hinder their development and wellbeing.

hymie · 28/02/2011 21:34

They didn't offer an opinion Scurryfunge.

But others obviously did.

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StewieGriffinsMom · 28/02/2011 21:35

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DeOilyCart · 28/02/2011 21:35

Huge numbers of teenagers who end up homeless on the streets are there because their parents (often fathers and stepfathers) have kicked them out or rejected them because of their sexuality. They may possibly end up in care, Imagine then being with foster parents who could not describe homosexuality as 'acceptable'.

Hymie - I know two children who are happy, very happy, for the first time in their lives, to be living with 2 Dads. Adopted, rather than fostered - but did you see that 'Strictest Parents' episode where the wayward teens were sent to live with a huge foster family led by 2 dads in America? They parented in a way that all of us could learn a little from, and were so concerned to support the girl who stayed with them that one travelled back to the UK with her to help her back home, and with the whole family. Inspirational.

Foster carers must be able to support mixed up distressed childen, including those whose families may be gay or who are developing a gay identity themselves. Also to enable these children to support and understand each other - not to be told that a vulnerable friend is not 'acceptable'.

BooyFuckingHoo · 28/02/2011 21:35

"Would anyone pro-actively say that a homosexual lifestyle was good"

yes why wouldn't i?

balloonballs · 28/02/2011 21:36

Are you well hymie?

Your rambling rubbish.

nailak · 28/02/2011 21:36

tbh i wouldnt promote a gay lifestyle whatever that is, but if my child adopted fostered or real came to me and said i was gay i would talk through their feelings with them,

its the same thing if your child makes anyother choice that you dont like, you dont have to like it but that dont mean you slag it off constantly or reject them etc, (i am aware being gay is not a choice, just a comparison)

hymie · 28/02/2011 21:37

Mumi Mon 28-Feb-11 21:27:25
"children shouldn't have to deal with that stigma either should they?"

They wouldn't have to if it wasn't perpetuated by people like you.

Ohh...that's an insult.

Are you going to subjugate children into YOUR way of thinking?

Radical indeed.

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BooyFuckingHoo · 28/02/2011 21:38

DeOily that was my favourite episode of strictest parents.

DeOilyCart · 28/02/2011 21:38

Hymie - they didn't say they wouldn't promote homosexuality, they said they couldn't tell a child it is 'acceptable'. Which leaves a vulnerable gay child where? Unacceptable.

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