Court backs decision to bar Christian foster couple

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Should Christians be stopped from fostering because of their faith/belief?

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Legover, IS the 'whole gay thing' unacceptable to you? genuine question, not poking you with a stick

Leningrad are you a Troll ?

clue: I am not the foster parent, I am merely sympathetic to their point of view. My sexual preferences have about as much to do with this discussion as the colour of your hair shirt.

Does that answer your question as well Boys ?

Yes, Leningrad is a troll and a very persistent one . In fact she eats little homophobes for breakfast and sautés their pigeon brains for tea.

But why are you sympathetic to their view that they are not willing to tell a small child that homosexuality is a good thing? Is it because you also think that homosexuality is 'not normal' and 'unnaceptable' and that you too, should be above the law?

And what's this about a hair shirt? Bizarre

haha, Leningrad is not a troll, and her sexuality is absolutley central to this discussion because she knows how it feels to be treated the way you say you would hypothetically treat you hypothetical gay son, and agrees that it is indeed 'tough'.

And that is not something that should be inflicted on a child in foster care bt people who have no business leaggly, ethically or morally putting any of their individual personal judgmental beliefs on a child.

But you haven't read the rest of the thread, have you? Or the links that explain what actually went on between SS and the Johns.

Actually, this thread is a waste of time now because people who haven't read the thread are taking it in a circular direction...

Hear hear, Leningrad.

And as for the 'what about the children who are under 8' - yes, what about them? If my friends in a 2 Mummy family both suddenly become v ill and emergency foster care is required for a couple of days, will their 7 yo feel safe and happy in a home where the carers say they cannnot talk of homosexualiy as 'acceptable'? Why should she be cared for and told her lovely mummies are somehow unacceptable?

Good grief, talk about blinded by your own sense of injustice. Get a grip people, the world isn't trying to steal your cookies.

I said why was it wrong for these parents that had fostered 20 kids previously without incident, had presumably done a good job otherwise they wouldn't have kept being sent them, to carry on fostering. The kids are 5-8 yrs old FFS.....what do you want ?....John loves John and Lucy loves Lucy to be their only reading matter ?

Like a said, get a grip. If any of the kids that were in their care are gay then these peoples influence on them isn't going to prevent them expressing that later on in life, unless of course you are suggesting being Gay is something that can be 'erased' from a person if they are put under enough pressure for long enough.

logover, the whole point is that these people would have a tremendous influence on a child.

Are we to be candid or PC?

Legover, have you read the link to what actually happened in court?(not the misinformation in the OP link)

The Johns have not been prevented from fostering at this point.

(I don't think you can have read much of the thread if you think LeninGrad is a troll.)

This topic has gone in a few tangents of themselves. I was remarking on the tangent of gay and lesbian questions. In my household we do not speak of sex to a child of 5-8. If they came home talking about gay or lesbian I would march down to the school and charge the teacher. Our culture is not to have our children identify with anything sexual before the age of appropriateness.

As far as the children abused from fosters. Those homes need to have their license taken away. Maybe it would be better to teach the child what abuse is rather than sexual orientations?

For latecomers, a sensible Christian perspective here and the (non) decision here

Hope that helps.

charge the teacher with what?

Overstepping their boundries, of course.

charge the teacher? Do you mean physically run at them or have them appear before a court, or what?

Scurryfunge, no I do not mean physically run at them. I am not that sort. I would much rather have the coppers come in and handcuff the old goat.

Not likely though is it? The police would laugh at you.

One thing I noticed in the Lord Justice Munby's judgement which I don't think anyone else has commented on:

it is important to note that, as we have seen, the documents indicate that the defendant was also concerned with other matters. Thus Mr Weston referred to such matters as who would care for a child who was likely to be there at weekends when the claimants were at the two church services they attended on Sundays, the indication that they would not take a Muslim child in their care to a mosque, and their availability in a wider sense because of the pressures of their work and other commitments.

evil, if a 5-8 year old comes home talking about 'gays' its far more likely to have come from the playground than any teacher - it is exactly this scenario which was the premise of the discussion between the Johns and the SS.

Is this a The only Gay in the Village competition or a genuine discussion about the qualities expected of foster parents ?

So, where are we with this...ahhh yes...the only real salient point:

Would children in Social care be better off with this couple or better off left in care ?