Anni Dewani's murder - what could the motive be?

[Komondor]

I am aware that Shrien is innocent until proven guilty - but if he is proved guilty what are his motives?

From what I understand:

1. It is an arranged marriage (introduced by a cousin of Anni's), but not forced. It was up to the couple whether or not they married.

1. There is no life insurance on her life.

1. According to her father there was no dowry.

By all accounts she was a lovely person, and clearly very beautiful. Why would you want her killed on honeymoon?

Maybe the premeditation is what's shocking here. BUt a man killing his wife is emphatically a mundane occurance, a normal part of daily life
[Two women a week in the UK alone, and the murderers receive on average 4 years in prison. That's how much a woman's life is worth]

Recently in the U.K a man got 18 months for killing his wife

That is ridiculous, how can the penalty be that low for a life? Geez

well, because the dead woman is never there to defend herself. She'S dead. Leaving the murderer free to lie and contoct events in his favour, the "she started it" line, everyone believes him, and voila!

Odd to say the least, one would imagine the authorities would be more keen to solve something like that. Not just shrug and say oh well she is dead and cant defend herself. Under what circumstances do some of these woman die?

here is the link to the list begun recently on MN

It's because women have less value

And the police can't be bothered investigating properly in many cases

That is so sad! Well at least the Dewani murder will be solved, one down, thousands to go

Exactly Endeavour - Hillary of course I'm not saying someone who is educated would not murder their wife, I am merely saying the motive would be unlikely to be a dowry or something that goes on in villages in India.

I never mentioned "dowry" as the motive. You should read my previous messages one more time. There can be only two possible motives either Dewani must be either "gay" or "impotent"

hillary no, that doesn't explain the two women who are murdered every week by their spouses. Are you saying all the murderers are gay/impotent?
men murder women because they can , because it's culturally acceptable (they receive between 18 months and around 4 years jail time in the UK), and because women's lives don't have much value.
I really don't understand why people are searching for motives, when two men a week murder their wives, for god knows whatever reason

Thanks for your insights, Endeavor.

I'm minded to agree with Hillary, there is something else going on here, something personally embarassing that Dewani doesn't want revealed. It might be something that western liberals don't even think is an issue, but in his culture would be tantamount to professional death.

And that something hidden is part of the reason why they went to the township at all.

Hi Santasakura those murders are due to domestic violence and it is very common all around the world don't even bring domestic violence here coz the scenario is totally different. Here that is not the case the newly wedded husband killed her wife "even before starting the life". One thing is very clear in Anni's murder, Dewani was clear and wanted to execute her during the honeymoon. It is not rocket science and everybody knows honeymoon is meant for making love. Dewani might have avoided sex before and after the marriage. He might have given her lame excuses for not having sex. Eventually Anni somehow found out either her husband is gay or impotent and everybody knows the rest of what happened.

I dont think so. He couldve easily have lived a lie with her. Plenty do.

Probably just didn't have the guts to stand up to his family by not marrying her, and because it really is the done thing to murder your wife, thought he'd be better off going down that route than bringing shame on himself and family by refusing to marry her

As quoted by one news site, Dewani as a "religious and was general secretary of National Hindu Students Forum during his time at Manchester University" and he was very religious.

So the motive is very clear and he committed this murder to hide his homosexuality

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1338750/Honeymoon-murder-Police-quiz-rent-boy-claim-Shrien-Dewani-paid-sex.html#ixzz18LQIhNYE

I still think the religious aspect is by the by. Men always have, and always will, find Good Reasons to murder their wives.

I mean, when coming out is worse than murdering a woman, it says a lot about how little value women's lives have

Im keeping an open mind.

I dont think being gay in enough reason for him to have done it. Plenty of men, especially from his kind of background, get married and still manage to satisfy their gay side. Many of my gay friends have told me its very common so, to go as far as murdering your wife for this reason seems very extreme and unlikely.

He might be being set up here, keep that in mind.

Not everybody acts and behaves the same way.
Each individual is different, there are many psychological disorders wich makes each individual to act in a different way under same circumstances. May be you and your friends are not psychopaths or sociopaths and that could be the reason you were normal. You don't have any idea what goes on hindu families. It is extremely difficult to understand their culture unless you are brought up as a hindu.

If he is innocent,
why did he changed his statement now and then?
Dewani gave the money to the killer and it was recorded on hotel's CCTV
May be SA has the highest no. of crimes around the world but they don't have any reason to play some childish games.Unless they have some strong evidences against Dewani they won't be doing this.
why does he want to fight his extradition if he is nothing to hide.

Hi Santasakura, if you are so much concerned about domestic violence you can open a separate thread and write whatever you can.

I must admit I dont know anything about Hindu culture.

I used to work with a girl who was a Sikh, I know completely different religion but she was of Indian origin, and her culture never seemed any different to ours, with dating, going out, making rude jokes etc. The only difference I can think of is that she was very driven and worked a lot harder than I ever did!

Hilary, I'm guessing you are not a Hindu, so without either of us understanding by either of us, we can't pin the blame on Hindu culture.

I agree with you Hilary, at present, it seems to be pointing to Shrien being guilty, but I think we should still keep an open mind. Its for the court to make the decision.

The most likely explanation in my opinion, if guilty, is that he is a Sociopath, and none of us can understand the workings of a Sociopath's mind.

I am not blaming hindu religion. I do know a lot about hindu religion and I am Indian origin. Your Sikh friend may be not deeply religious but Dewani was a hindu icon during his college days and being brought up in a religious family puts lot of pressure. For these people family prestige comes first. Unless you are a Indian or Indian origin you can't understand their complex culture.

If he is gay and had her murdered, then I'm sure a greater family scandal has been caused by Anni's death, than him having been outed by his wife.

true. I think we are jumping way ahead here. Im still not convinced he's guilty. That cctv could be just showing him paying the guy upfront for the tour. Im still keeping a way open mind. It makes no sense to have her killed because of his sexuality, I dont care about the pressures of the family. Far easier to marry her and carry on being gay than to have her murdered and risk going to jail for life, I take it it will be life over there.