Anni Dewani's murder - what could the motive be?

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I am aware that Shrien is innocent until proven guilty - but if he is proved guilty what are his motives?

From what I understand:

1. It is an arranged marriage (introduced by a cousin of Anni's), but not forced. It was up to the couple whether or not they married.

1. There is no life insurance on her life.

1. According to her father there was no dowry.

By all accounts she was a lovely person, and clearly very beautiful. Why would you want her killed on honeymoon?

This thread is in incredibly bad taste, and I'm actually livid at the ignorant idiots saying that the SA justice system is up to scratch/they're framing Mr Dewani to protect the tourist industry.

FFS - get your heads out of your collective asses. Judges in SA have an excellent reputation, and as I said on another thread about this - it's hardly like all of a sudden people are going "what?! SA has a crime problem?" It is incredibly well known, worldwide, that SA has this problem - one case is not going to kill off the tourist industry and I doubt the SA government would frame an innocent man to protect him.

There are lots of dodgy things about it, but as far as I'm aware - none of the posters on this thread are:

• Mr Dewani's or the other defendant's lawyers
• or any of the defendants

So stop this crass speculation. It's terrible.

to protect it, not him.

It's actually hugely insulting to South Africans, AND the justice system to go on about how "it's not up to European or British standards", especially in light of the mess the UK family courts are. So bloody arrogant.

I have to agree it is very far fetched that SA police could try to frame an innocent man.

I saw on the news Anni's father thanking the SA police, which I interpreted that he thought they were handling the case effectively.

Personally I think there is no evidence of a motive or that he was even involved. Terrible trial by media going on yet again.

Absoflakes could you please explain why this thread is in bad taste?

Nobody, apart from those involved in a case, are in a position to know what actually happened, and here people are, picking apart something they know very little about, going on about the marriage not being legal, her crying on the plane, would he have gotten money, was she a virgin etc.

If this was your family, or someone close to you, would you be happy having strangers making such suppositions about their life and death? Going on and on about it in the press?

I'm not the only person who has found it distasteful.

The changing story is suspicious but any decent police officer will know that eye witness accounts are incredibly unreliable.

Most people when questioned will remember what they thought happened, not what actually happened. The two can be worlds apart.

Both sides have unanswered questions which hopefully he will get a fair extradition hearing and with luck a fair trial in SA should it be proven there is proper evidence against him.

If discussing opinions about an open topic is in bad taste then I suggest that no-one discusses Wikileaks or The student protests in London etc as in these instsances personal lives have been exposed and people with families injured. Its easy to close our eyes and imagine the big bad world out there doesn't exist, sad reality is that it does and discussions on various topics will happen regardless. Its all part of our freedom to exchange ideas and opinions. I don't think anyone here means any disrespect to any of the families. Plus there is probably not a single question being asked here that her family has not asked in private.
Added to that I do believe justice will take its course

Niceguy2, the taxi driver wasn't beaten in jail. It is alleged that the 2 who carried out the murder were. He did enter a "plea bargain" but still got 18 years, it is not in exchange for not being charged.

I live in Cape Town and I can say the media here are NOT trying to make him a scape goat because of tourism, that is the spin Max Clifford is trying to put on it.
There are just MANY holes in the story which are suspicious.
I don't know if it has been reported there but photocopies of her photo were found in the taxi... she was partially undressed but no sexual assault had taken place.

I seriously doubt robbers would go to this extent for a robbery... they would more likely just hold them up and be done with it, also they would also have just got what they had on them.

He said he got thrown out the back window - but no scratches, no dirt even..... hmmmm

I believe he will get a fair trial here our judges have an excellent reputation.
Bloody Max Clifford!!!!!

I don't think Niceguy2's comments are distasteful.

I can see your point AbsofLatkes, with the speculative nature of these comments, but this is being discussed in many other places.

I think the general consensus is that the circumstances are unusual. I would have thought the higher the interest in the case, the more pressure for Shrien and the other suspects to have a fair trial in South Africa.

There is noting wrong with him hiring Max Clifford - look at all the media attention that has been thrown at all this.

Having been to Cape Town many times with DH I have had on our first trip had a charming cab driver offer to take us to a township and he was convincing. Because we knew friends in Cape Town we never ever used the cab.

We always hired a car or had friends hire a driver for us.

It took a while for us to adjust to the security that you need to consider. It is such a beautiful place, just beautiful and most people are so welcoming.

You can go on organised trips to townships.

Appletrees Thu 09-Dec-10 09:50:30
Mme Lindt: "Jesus" -- that was going to be my first word.

This is lascivious and prurient. Lipsmacking tricoteurs.

Add message | Report | Message poster figcake Wed 08-Dec-10 21:10:54

It is in bad taste to discuss it I suppose though there seems to be new devts every day so it does read like crime fiction (unfortunately).

MmeLindt Wed 08-Dec-10 19:55:26
Jesus. This is in incredibly bad taste.

It is not a murder mystery. Prof Green in the Billiard Room with the Candlestick.

It is the life and death of a young woman.

So why are you just asking me?

i ddon't understand the outrage. People are wondering why she died. I'd find it worse if people just shrugged. People should be shocked and confused by unexpected murders.

So everybody saying 'this is a young woman's death'. Yes. We know.

I am not quite sure why he hired Max Clifford either, seems an odd thing to do under the circumstances. I am sure hw had his reasons. The court hearing tomorrow should be interesting as the SA judicial team is delivering more evidence in hope of getting his bail denied

Yes, popping head round door to day it's in prurient and nasty bad taste. Yuk.

I agree with Valiumdingleton it would be much worse if the world just ignored eveything. I do not think anyone here has said he is guilty just that his story is not making a complete circle
Absoflaktes- no attacking you in anyway please relax, just commenting on your comments

Actually it's not quite as bad as the thread taking dibs on who first suspected the husband. Gah.

I just knew this thread would be full of people telling off those of us discussing it.

It's a high profile case, everyone is talking about it. It's odd, things don't add up. People are entitled to speculate.

It does not mean we don't feel sorry for the terrible murder of a young woman.

Using phrases like lascivious and prurient, Lipsmacking tricoteurs and as you were is everything I despise about MN.

Appletrees- no offence or attack - but if you find it in bad taste and are offended you should not read the thread. To read it is your choice and your alone

Yes, it was just on my tio and and mentioned my name do I just came back to agree with her. But thanks for your opinion on what I should and shouldn't read.

Btw appalling bad taste y'all.

People are entitled..

Blah. I am equally entitled to say Yuk

Seriously? You despise it more than drooling overthe gossip surrounding a murder?

Your choice.

No one is drooling over a murder FGS.

Don't tell us what current affairs we can and can not discuss.

Geez Appletrees relax. There is no personal insult or attack directed at you here. As I said you can say yuk as many times as you want you aren't going to stop the world discussing it. Besides I have to say the way it is being discussed here is very well behaved, you want to see yuk go see what The Sun is saying since the start. Please send them an email saying yuk as well