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Please sign this petition: 3 teens walked out with just 80 hrs community service after torturing an autistic boy for 3 days

147 replies

chandra · 16/10/2010 00:58

Just seen this in another thread, but thought of starting another one with a "more to the point title" in order to attract more attention.

From the Daily Mail (I know..):
Evil teenagers who 'tortured' autistic boy, 17, for three days free to roam streets after judge fails to lock them up

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1319575/3-evil-bullies-tortured-autistic-boy-17-walk-free-Manchester-court.html

National Autistic Society campaign

ient.id=10&ea.campaign.id=8098

Mencap:
e-activist.com/ea-campaign/clientcampaign.do?ea.client.id=78&ea.campaign.id=8108&ea.param.ext

Thank you.

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Toffeefudgecake · 18/10/2010 12:59

Nottired - good point.

lottie - that's fantastic.

Good to see more people signing this Smile.

extremelychocolateymilkroll · 18/10/2010 13:09

Done. Thanks for posting this.

amberlight · 18/10/2010 13:20

signed.
As someone who is on the autism spectrum, I'm so Sad that if some group of lads tortured me for three days, it wouldn't even be worth a day in jail for them.

potoroo · 18/10/2010 13:27

Done.

GingerCursedEeeee · 18/10/2010 13:37

Done

geraldinetheluckygoat · 18/10/2010 13:37

done

Toffeefudgecake · 18/10/2010 14:29

Another paper has covered it. This was in the Guardian on Saturday.

Toffeefudgecake · 18/10/2010 16:46

bump.

hichaechoc · 18/10/2010 16:59

Done

LynLiesNomoreZombieFest · 18/10/2010 17:04

Done

greaseistheword · 18/10/2010 17:05

done

whimsy · 18/10/2010 17:12

Done Angry & Sad

tokyonambu · 18/10/2010 17:32

Mind you, the National Autistic Society doesn't exactly have clean hands in the issue of dealing with violent offenders in order to protect innocent victims. I'd say providing a diet of horror films and pornography to a man who had been convicted of murdering and dismembering his baby stepbrother, and then failing to report his absconding (he went on to rape a young girl) shows that the NAS are not in much of a position to moralise.

www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/article4710492.ece

www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/sep/09/9

The NAS said "We have already committed to making the findings of this review publicly available and we will be acting on the report to ensure that nothing like this can happen again." but either it's taking a very long time to carry out the review or they weren't being entirely truthful, because there's no sign of it being published.

Unwind · 18/10/2010 18:07

Signed the MenCap one

What tokyonambu said about the National Autistic Society - they also delayed informing police that he had absconded, and when they did, did not bother to let them know he was dangerous. And the head of adult services at the NAS gave a statement to the media about how stepping up security at that institution was not necessarily the best course of action, following the brutal rape of the young girl.

lottiejenkins · 18/10/2010 18:12

Times link isnt working!!

tokyonambu · 18/10/2010 19:58

The Times link seems fine. But it just covers the same ground as the Guardian one.

2shoeprintsintheblood · 18/10/2010 21:37

bump

FlyingInTheCLouds · 18/10/2010 21:48

done

WetAugust · 18/10/2010 23:30

Done

Toffeefudgecake · 19/10/2010 00:53

It seems a shame to highlight that case, tokyonambu and unwind. Surely the issue we should be focusing on in this thread is whether the three men who tortured a 17-year-old boy received an appropriate sentence. They are the accused here, not the NAS.

tokyonambu · 19/10/2010 08:18

" They are the accused here, not the NAS."

The NAS are taking a high moral tone.

"The victim, who is 17 years old, was subjected to a three day ordeal during which he was brutally and maliciously tortured. However, his assailants ? Jack Bolton, Andrew Griffin and Nathan Marshall ? were handed a meagre 80 hours of community service for their crimes. The victim?s family described the ruling as a "joke"."

Well, let's see how the National Autistic Society do when it comes to protecting vulnerable victims.

"A mentally ill man who raped a schoolgirl after escaping from a low-security psychiatric hospital had previously been allowed to amass a collection of pornographic and horror DVDs, a court heard yesterday.

Darren Harkin, 21, who attacked the 14-year-old girl the morning after absconding, was also taken by staff to the cinema to see horror films and had been allowed unsupervised leave.

Judge Nicholas Cooke QC said Harkin, who was initially detained when, aged 12, he stabbed his six-month-old stepbrother to death in his cot, was "exceptionally dangerous". He said he was aghast at the actions of staff at Hayes hospital in Pilning, a village near Bristol.

"How on earth could it be thought appropriate that someone who had done such a thing could access horror films? It is difficult to understand," he told Reading crown court."

(...)

The judge also questioned why hospital staff waited half-an-hour before alerting police when Harkin escaped in February and why neighbouring police forces were not then alerted.

So on the one hand, courts should listen to the NAS when it comes to sentencing people who attack innocent victims. On the other hand, when it comes to stopping violent offenders who have dismembered babies from accessing violent pornography, preventing them from absconding and actually being bothered to inform the police, the NAS appear to have a bit of a blind spot. Yes, attacks on 17 year old autistic boys are bad. But so are the rapes of 14 year old schoolgirls by people the NAS are being paid to deal with, and it's perfectly reasonable to ask the question "if the NAS are such experts on the criminal justice system, why did they fuck up so badly that a 14 year old was raped by someone in their care?"

2shoeprintsintheblood · 19/10/2010 08:23

could you not start another thread,
bump for people to sign petion

nottirednow · 19/10/2010 08:51

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amberlight · 19/10/2010 08:59

I work with the NAS and with their CEO and see first hand the work they do with the specialists and security companies now to ensure that there isn't a repeat of that awful incident. I'm involved in the buildings design projects to do just this. I'm not a spokesperson for them - I'm just relating what I see at first hand.

Real action WAS taken. The NAS was most certainly not complacent afterwards and aren't complacent now.

They do a huge amount to help safeguard people like me on the autism spectrum from criminal behaviour, and are actively working with the police, courts, Crown Prosecution Service etc to ensure that all have a really good understanding of what's needed to ensure safety for everyone - autistic or otherwise.

The situation you mention was an absolutely awful one, yes. But it is very untrue that they did nothing as a result.

Toffeefudgecake · 19/10/2010 12:33

Amberlight - it's good to hear from someone who speaks from experience. Thanks for that.