Hahahaha: Cameron says sorry to mums headline in tomorrow's papers

[WilfShelf]

'Sorry. We somehow forgot to mention we were removing the one benefit which universally protects women and children from some of the many financial inequities they face. But hey, we're elected now for five years and there's fuck all you can do about it...'

'But don't worry, as long as you haven't had the shame and disgrace of being abandoned to care for your kids by someone who refuses to pay his way, you'll be able to claw back a few quid a year in tax just so long as you get married. And those of you who do earn HRT, you can get EVEN MORE back...'

'I think you'll all find that's fair, no?'

He lied. What did you expect? Are you Tory, LibDem voters happy now?

Lily you and Charlie Brooker just made my day.

Crikey !

ssd I am not and never have been smug. I am still happy with my vote and we are losing our CB. The money needs to come from somewhere. IMO better this than education or hospitals.

The Charlie Brooker piece is FABULOUS isn't it!

at BoysAreLikeDogs and Dave's shiny face

And yy @ Unprune's rediscovered energy source.

One of the hardest things I'm finding thus far is stringing together a coherent arguement against them. I know they're wrong and destructive and self-serving and that their policies are fuckwitted flawed amd wrong and destructive. Worse still, I know the reasons why.

But faced with them, I turn into a ranting, foul-mouthed loon.

How prescient Charlie Brooker was!

This bit made me laugh/shudder:

"The Conservative party
The Conservative party is an eternally irritating force for wrong that appeals exclusively to bigots, toffs, money-minded machine men, faded entertainers and selfish, grasping simpletons who were born with some essential part of their soul missing. None of history's truly historical figures has been a Tory, apart from the ones that were, and they only did it by mistake. To reach a more advanced stage of intellectual evolution, humankind must first eradicate the "Tory instinct" from the brain - which is why mother nature is gradually making them less sexy with each passing generation. The final Tory is doomed to spend his or her life masturbating alone on a hillside, which, let's face it, is the way things were supposed to be all along"

Just let me understand this correctly. If you stay at home to raise your children the state will take your money (CB) away and give it to your husband (transfer of tax free allowance).

How is this fair, exactly?

(don't get me wrong we will be much better off under this arrangement - but it just doesn't seem fair)

slug!

Sorry, but I think it is naive to think the money won't also be coming from education and hospitals. The child benefits cuts are just a drop in the ocean, there is more to come.

As the child of a single parent growing up under the last Tory Government I have difficulty trusting this lot.

I am completely staggered at this.

I personally think that CB should be cut and be based on income, and think that the £40K odd limit is about fair. But that should be £40K household income. HOW can they have been so stupid as to have not realised the basic unfairness as explained by David Davis in that article.

I agree that this is absolutely fuck all to do with reducing the deficit, but old tory ideology coming to the fore and their utter hatred of the welfare state.

And they can shut up about the cupboards being bare after the Labour administation. That is not the truth and they know it. But look at what everyone believes - most of the media in this country is right wing.

I think they know that if they stagger us enough, we'll be too stunned to respond

BecauseImWorthIt I liked that bit too

JenaiMarrHePlaysGuitar sadly I think that's got more than a grain of truth in it.

Ideological vandals indeed

Getorf - it's because the govt is looking at the parents income first rather than looking at it from the childs situation. Who is looking after the child in the family setup, what do they earn, are there siblings. By looking at it from the childs point of view it would be fair.

I still fail to see why some posters like to place the blame for this on the voters. Yes, it's all the voters' fault that the party they voted for are lying bastards. How helpful!

How about you stop sniping at the people who are being screwed over just as royally as you and snipe at your MP to bloody well do something about it instead?

Labour were making a huge ball-up of everything, sadly the only viable choice to replace them was the Tories. Some of us did try to get the Lib-Dems in instead, but that all went horribly wrong.

If Labour had won, they'd have kept spending money they didn't have until an even worse financial disater would have happened. And you can bet I wouldn't have been asking Labour voters if they were proud of themselves.

When all your choices of who to vote for suck completely, how can it be the fault of the voters; one of the bunches of lying, useless idiots has to win!

did anyone hear justine on woman's hour? she was very good, of course didn't get to say it all but one never does on these things.

too much airtime to the tory, though, (who wasn't really a tory, ahem), who notably went with the 83% agree with this policy LIE.

I was yelling at radio too Aitch, silly woman.

Dolphin and Pomme: what will you say when the money does begin to be taken from the education and NHS budgets, at least more openly? It will, you know.

I was shouting at the radio too! Especially at the woman on who is entitle to WTC etc at £15K who didn't take into account that the other single parent wasn't.

Argh!

Indeed, jenny.

I am quite astounded (or maybe not actually, thinking about it) that people are still buying the argument that this is a money saving exercise.

I really hate all this 'blame the Tory voters' talk! Not everyone who voted Tory is a millionaire making huge profits off the porr downstodden masses. I should think that a lot of them were people who were very disillisioned by the Labour government and hoped that a different party might improve things. Turns out they were wrong, but I think it's awful to assume anyone who voted Tory only had their own selfish interest at heart.

Blame the party, not the voters, please!

Should I try and listen to today's Woman's Hour podcast? Or will it be injurous to my health?

i predict the woman from The Centre For Sticking Up For The Tories might grate a little.

But did you hear the "tory" woman, said, oh we do need to make it fairer, take it off every house where the combined income is £44k