Hahahaha: Cameron says sorry to mums headline in tomorrow's papers

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'Sorry. We somehow forgot to mention we were removing the one benefit which universally protects women and children from some of the many financial inequities they face. But hey, we're elected now for five years and there's fuck all you can do about it...'

'But don't worry, as long as you haven't had the shame and disgrace of being abandoned to care for your kids by someone who refuses to pay his way, you'll be able to claw back a few quid a year in tax just so long as you get married. And those of you who do earn HRT, you can get EVEN MORE back...'

'I think you'll all find that's fair, no?'

He lied. What did you expect? Are you Tory, LibDem voters happy now?

We are all in this together are we?

Well what about the banks???

What about higher taxation for those who earn over 100K.

This is going to adversely affect women - who remember if they are in paid employment earn a great deal less than men for comparative work,

The Coalition deserve every bit of flack for this they get.

They will not get in next time around - at all. Thank God they will be a one hit wonder.

Oh and the tax breaks for "married people" are going to cost more that the £1 billion that he is going to save with this move.

Mummyberryjuice, absolutely agree, tying women to men isn't good for women and children. This obsession with forcing everybody to be a two-parent family even if they're there out of desperation/financial dependence - it's disgusting.

His shiny pink face also makes me sick.

Mummyberryjuice and VallumSingleton - you are both so right, it really is disgusting.

And can anyone explain why non-domiciles are not in the same boat - they do not pay any tax?

I would turn down the married couples tax allowance if I could, even though we are losing CB.

Totally disagree with rewarding us for doing something we wanted to do anyway (and that DH will get/I'll lose if he abandons me and runs off to marry a younger model!).

So we were led to believe by Mr.Cameron that he would be an OPEN, HONEST & TRANSPARENT Prime Minister and now he's added FAIRNESS into the equation. How can he backtrack and apologise for forgetting to mention the CB cuts so soon after being elected, how many more "forgotten" policies are we going to see next, lets have a guess:

Abolishition of the Winter Fuel Allowance for anyone born before 5th July 1950 currently elgible for tax free payments of between £125.00 - £400.00 oer year.

Abolishition of the free TV Licences for anyone over the age of 75

Abolishition of the Free Off Peak Bus travel for anyone aged over 60

I reckon they could save a few billion by cutting the above and means testing those that really need them, go on Mr.Cameron abolish the above, after all it's about Fairness & Equality for all and then you can say sorry afterwards.

THe Tory's very own appointee at the Treasury's Office of Tax Simplification John Whiting has said that the annoucemnet of the CB withdrawal has been mismanaged. The idea was valid for debate but needed more thinking through.

ching. wot i said further down. your post is the plan.

I know very little about this, and may be being thick, but why can't they just raise taxes?? Surely that's the fairest way to make the money that's needed?

What irks me most is all this talk of

1)"Thse with broadest shoulders must bear the most" and

2)"CB is subsidising the mc and taking away from the poor."

is designed to sound vaguely redistributive. (And redistribution is good, yes?)

If you really believe point 1, then just tax the very highest earners more then. |All of them, not just the parents,).
Why does he hate women so much?

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It's no wonder Nick Clegg came on here before this announcement.
I doubt Cameron has the balls to accept any invite now.

Interesting how they're spinning the poll too, there is analysis on the UK polling report website which explains that whilst 83% of people agree with principle only 44% of people questioned agree with the practicalities.

S'ok though, he's said sorry now, sure everyone will be fine now!

Why not look at the child, who cares for him/her & how much the family earns & then see if the child is eligible for benefit.

Yy. And as soon as the 'middle' classes (strange that when labour increased taxes for those earning more than £100k it was an 'attack on the middle classes) have had a year or two without CB, there will be talk of how those scumbag freeloaders receiving CB are only having kids for the money and that the 'incentive' to do so should ge stopped.

Mark my words, this is the beginning f the end of CB.

Well after reading the article in the Daily Mail.

I am shocked David Cameron is responding is still defending this clear error. Most people agree benefits have tobe cut not in an ufair way with.

David Davis has hit the right note:

"Amid deepening concern on the Tory Right about a backlash from voters, Mr Cameron's former leadership rival David Davis told the Mail: 'Although in principle I have got no problem with reducing child benefit for the better off, I am not sure this is the wisest way to do it.

'It seems to me not a good idea that one family living next door to another, one with a collective income of £80,000 getting benefit and one with an income of £40,000 next door getting no child benefit. This can be fixed.' "

It drives me mad when they say that CB is the poor subsidising the rich. It really isn't in this case - the middle class families pay MORE tax than a poor family (as they should), and receive far fewer benefits (as they should). In no way is that the poor subsidising the middle class.

I honestly don't think they have the brain cells to 'get' this. Gideon and Dave just say whatever they think sounds good at the time and their brains only catch up when they see the Daily Mail headlines.

Read Charlie Brooker's assessment of Dave from WAY back! David Cameron is an idiot

I started a thread a while ago asking the smug tory voters if they're still so smug now

might search the archives and post it again, see what they think of posh dave now

I really must correct my spelling oops should read "Abolition" on my above post.
yellowvan, of course they should tax the very highest earners, including those over 60 years of age. It beggars belief that millionaires in our society over 60 are entitled to free off peak bus travel & fuel allowances, and wealthy 75 year olds can claim free TV licences, unfair.

I am not surprised. The Tories have never liked Child Benefit, or any sort of benefits. I am surprised that they haven't just chopped the tax credits altogether.

What I would like to see is some sort of requirement for them to keep to election promises. So if a party promises to keep child benefit for 5 years say, then they should be forced to do so. This would stop outrageous electioneering claims.

The married tax allowance is bollocks. Why reward people for being married (and I am married)...why penalise single parents, or those who choose not to be married?

Why don't they just abolish all benefits and cut the NHS to 1 hospital and a part time GP right now? It would save them all this drip drip drip of cuts, and they could get rid of all the civil servants who administer the benfits at the same time, just think of the money it would save!

The BBC could do a documentary (sponsored by a suitable company as the licence fee would go too) and they could call it "an experiment in taking Britain back to the 14th Century" and could presented by an academic who will be the last of his kind because in the future no one will be able to to afford to go to uni then get a job as a wandering academic because they don't earn 6 figure incomes.

Spot on Mummyberryjuice.

If I was Andy Coulson I would be really worried about how all this has played out.

It reinforces all the negatives about DC and GO.

Arrogance and born-to-rule attitudes - to do this so soon after the election when you had specifically ruled it out.

Living in a bubble of privilege and not understanding the reality of others' finances.

Financial incompetence - the flabby thinking which means in practice this policy will be completely unfair - alienating even those affected who would have supported it in principle. And not caring about the fact it is unfair.

Same old tories - attacking single mothers whilst cutting corporation tax.

David Davis the voice of reason (son of single mother brought up on council estate)

This is all I have to say on the subject

For now