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Yet another dog attack

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borderslass · 02/09/2010 20:19

poor child

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CwtchyBlueMama · 02/09/2010 20:36

That poor little girl,she will be scarred for life now.

How many more people will be attacked before things change?

Goblinchild · 02/09/2010 20:37

I just googled dangerous dogs in Britain and got this as the first hit. I have no idea how accurate the figures given are, but the situation appears to be getting worse rather than improving. The number of attacks seem to be increasing over the years by a considerable percentage.
So dog lovers, what do you suggest as a practical solution?
We know the theory of deed not breed, incompetent owners and untrained animals, but if you don't want them muzzled, on leads whenever outside the home, banned, destroyed in shelters, then what's a practical alternative?
How can the problem of serious biting be solved, given that many owners will not broke interference if there hasn't been an attack by their animal?

expatinscotland · 02/09/2010 20:38

No one seems to give a fuck about changing things, and the police forces up here are about to get majorly cut.

It's about the owners, they're the ones who need the smack put down on them. My ex h was right, 'Most people, if they're not policed, they'll go ghetto.'

ShinyAndNew · 02/09/2010 20:43

well I think it lies with the general public. Report things you see you don't like. Your neighbour has a dog that never leaves the house? Report it. There are teens fighting dogs in the park? Report it. You see a stray wandering dog? Report it.

Perhaps it would also help if harsher punishments were brought in for people who were found to be behaving irresponsibly with their animals and if dog training courses (for people to become trainers) were more accessible. There is only 1 dog training school in our town that offers basic obedience classes. And none at all in the neighbouring town. So if you don't drive you're buggered. More dog trainers would mean more training schools.

And educate your children on how to behave around dogs. Even if you don't have one. They will still encounter them every day. It makes sense that they know how to behave around them.

BeerTricksPotter · 02/09/2010 20:50

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CwtchyBlueMama · 02/09/2010 20:51

I totally agree with the notion that people should report others if they see a stray dog/cruelty etc.

I also think if a dog has attacked before then there should be no second chance,take the dog away from the owner,prosecute them & ban them from keeping any dog in the future.

BeerTricksPotter · 02/09/2010 20:56

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Goblinchild · 02/09/2010 20:56

What happened to my link?
I'll try again
www.ukandspain.com/dangerous-dogs/

Goblinchild · 02/09/2010 20:59

So what's the answer BTP?
Do you find dogs attacking people acceptable?
How would you prevent or reduce such attacks happening, given that what we have at the moment isn't working, either for the dogs or the victims of attack.

BeerTricksPotter · 02/09/2010 21:04

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nameymcnamechange · 02/09/2010 21:05

I am an utterly reasonable dog-lover. Not frightened of dogs, even big dogs, and cannot bear cruelty to animals.

But when the general public are trying to have a reasoned discussion about what can be done to reduce the frequency of dog attacks, they are not "projecting [their] phobias out into the wider world and demanding every teensy, weensy element of risk is eliminated in order to provide safe passage for [their] family"

That sort of attitude is just so knee-jerk and loathsome.

What do you suggest for the reduction in the number of fatal and catastrophic dog attacks in this country BeerTricks?

borderslass · 02/09/2010 21:14

I'm not a dog lover as a result of a bad experience when younger but i'm not a dog hater. I know a couple of people with these dogs and they are the gentlest dogs you could meet one of the owners also has a rottie and they are both gentle as anything.
I was just quite shocked that it was the second attack on a child in a week.

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Nancy66 · 02/09/2010 21:42

I wish the people (ie deluded dog lovers) would stop trying to claim it's incredibly rare and massively blown out of proportion.

There are parts of some cities that are overrun with dangerous dogs. I gave up running in my local park because the problem was so bad...

BeerTricksPotter · 02/09/2010 21:47

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nameymcnamechange · 02/09/2010 21:49

Its a loathsome attitude to suggest that anyone who doesn't want more dog attacks is projecting their phobias and being over-protective.

Isn't it?

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TheHeathenOfSuburbia · 02/09/2010 21:51

BTP - "I will "brook no interference if there has not been an attack by my animal"
Why should I?"

...but you've then given five ways you want the government to interfere with dog owners? Confused

BeerTricksPotter · 02/09/2010 21:52

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nameymcnamechange · 02/09/2010 21:53

I would be interested to see the statistics if anyone can provide them.

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TheHeathenOfSuburbia · 02/09/2010 22:21

Ah, I see, it initially sounded very dramatic - 'you can pry my dog lead from my cold dead hands!' type thing, and then you came over all British and said, 'but of course I don't mind getting a licence for it and being forced to train it etc' Grin

Vallhala · 02/09/2010 22:30

"There are parts of some cities that are overrun with dangerous dogs. I gave up running in my local park because the problem was so bad..."

WHOA Nancy! Stop right there!

"Dangerous dogs"? Justify that remark please.

Dangerous in the opinion of whom?

The Police?

The Courts?

The experts?

You?

What makes you describe these dogs as dangerous?

BeerTricksPotter · 02/09/2010 22:34

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Vallhala · 02/09/2010 22:38

I wish someone had trained the middle aged man who yesterday repeatedly approached (as in within less than 8 inches) my clearly distressed and frightened GSD, who was on lead with me, despite me telling him time and again that I didn't want him to do so and that he was making my dog feel very vulnerable.

If he'd been bitten I am damn sure that my dog and I would have got the blame.

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