Mother suspected of killing her three children

[ElenorRigby]

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hope the witch rots in hell

poor poor children
RIP sweethearts

I just don't understand these murder/suicide cases. Part of me can almost understand someone wanting to commit suicide, but to be so selfish as to kill their family too. I cannot begin to comprehend it.

There was the case in Hampshire just last week of the man who killed his wife and daughters before hanging himself and last year the man in Shropshire who shot his wife and daughter (and their pets) before setting their home alight and turning the gun on himself. Both cases were over money.

My thoughts are with the father and the rest of the family.

Still only suspected but it doesn't look good.
If she did do it she should be put away for a long time.

I have trouble believing that any one can do this to their own children while in their right mind. Real trouble. It isn't much excuse if they are not in their right mind, but somehow I can handle that better.

I have even more trouble with this woman - utterly outrageous..

Saw this on the news last night. Is this the same woman and children who were reported missing from Aberdeen?

So sad.

Just read the link- same woman.

I may get flamed for this, but I can understand why somebody would do that if they were depressed.

I had PND quite badly after having my 2nd, and again but slightly milder after having my 3rd. There were many days when I thought about killing myself, and the only thing that stopped me was thinking that the DC would think it was their fault and that I wouldn't want to leave them without a mother. It is only one step further than that to think that the answer would be to kill the children too so that you could still all be together.

Nobody of stable mind would do that, she must have been sufferring from depression or similar.

I've actually met the family - she is a friend of a friend and we met at our mutual friend's DD's birtday party.

its a horrible, horrible tragedy, affecting "real" people.

My friend and her children are devastated.

I think you can only do that sort of thing if you have hit rock bottom. I am not excusing her but no one in their in the possession of all their qualities would do that.

When I was the dad of a neighbouring family killed all his dcs, his wife and himself after realising his company was bankrupted. He was not a monster, just someone who had lost it.

not qualities, faculties!

i dont think she was mentally ill or suddenly had depression or similiar....

not the first case like this is it?

it happens,people do things which nobody would ever predict.....and divorce issues/residency/financial etc......can really make you bitter

Surely people only do things like this when they are not of sound mind. Or they are truly evil

prisons are full of people who have done things like this.....they are of sound mind,or they would likely be in psych units/hospitals..

Well it's suspected but with the information provided it seems that it is very likely she did it.

This is an evil crime (similar to the one where husband kills wife and children then suicides due to money issues), there really is no excuses.

To be far gone enough to be declared insane and be sent to a psyc ward rather than prison is really really hard in this country. An example of "insane enough" is "you cut off your friend's head because it will be funny to watch him search for it when he wakes up". Our prisons contain loads of people who are nowhere near of sound mind - but not crazy enough to be "legally" crazy.

Sounds like a classic case of, "if I can't have them, you can't have them."

It's happened many times before. That dad in Crete being one, he threw his kids off a balcony while on holiday. And there was a mum a couple of years ago who stabbed her two teenage daughters to death, apparently because they wanted to live with their dad after their parents' divorce.

It's sad and shocking when relationships split up, I went through a less than rosy break up with DD's dad but imo there's no excuse unless you are certified insane to hurt your children.

May all 3 of them Rest In Peace

This happened a couple of miles down the road from where I live.

I just can't fathom how anyone could do this to their children. I've lived through hideously difficult, hellish experiences that I wouldn't wish on anyone. Stressful circumstances are no excuse. And yes, I know everyone is different but...

Too many people it seems they can do what they like with their children.

So awful.

'That dad in Crete being one, he threw his kids off a balcony while on holiday.'

That man was very, very insane, with a long history of psychiatric problems. How social workers and the courts found he was okay to have those children in his care unsupervised, I really don't know, because he was very ill.

This person appears to have abducted her children, to the point where she'd had her passport removed as she was a flight risk.

And sadly, not all who commit crimes like this are of unsound mind. Not by a long shot.

It really niggles me that when people do this, especially women, everyone concludes she must have been mentally ill.

That's not a given, and the idea that is it perpetuates the fear many who are mentally ill feel in seeking help because people make assumptions about the kinds of actions they are presumed capable of committing.

Again, at this point, all of this is speculation and no charges have been filed against anyone.

Very sad for your friend Bathsheba. How do you begin to explain something like this to your children?

what a horrible OP.

It's possible for a severe psychotic illness to come on very suddenly. (And don't anyone waste typing time and bandwidth going, bwaah, well I wouldn't kill anyone if I went mental because I am a Better Person - if you develop a severe psychotic illness, you don't know what you might do. You are not responsible for your actions.)

It's also possible that she killed the DC and herself because her XH was apocalyptically abusive but good at covering his tracks and with the money for a good lawyer, so she decided that death was better than having to live with the father. YOu don't know. SO put down the pitchforks for the moment.

Agreed expat re your point about mental illness.

People suffering with mental illness are far more likely to harm themselves than others.

And yes, just speculation at this point.

Could have been any number of things.

What is known is that she was on the run with the children to the point where the court had alerted authorities that she might attempt to flee the country.

And that the husband is not a suspect in whatever it was that happened.

She also had good legal representation, SGB, and obviously, money enough to stay on the run.

Where she was living was not a hovel or a cheap dump.

You can be temporarily mentally ill expat - it's not black and white. I don't know what was going through her head but it's that same old crap that men usually do as far as I can see if they were stabbed - if I can't have them, no one will

I never said she wasn't, Lady. Just that it's possible she is not.

It seems that, whenever women perpetrate these types of crimes, it's always assumed it's because she is mentally ill, the ex was abusive, he's continuing his abuse through the courts, etc.

But when a man does it, he's a family annihilator.