Mother suspected of killing her three children

[ElenorRigby]

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hope the witch rots in hell

poor poor children
RIP sweethearts

"I do see a gender bias, though, in all these"

I agree expat. It's horrendously sexist to assume that a woman is alway somehow a victim and a man is not.

i'm wondering (if true) how she contained the kids in one room and then murdered them one by one....with the others watching?

If she did murder them. And it's all speculation just now.

Why when these cases happen are there always the MN tricoteuses baying for blood before the police have even charged anyone, and sticking two fingers up to the principle of innocent until proven guilty in the process?

It may well look to most people as though the mother's killed her children but we cannot possibly know that she did. Perhaps we could all put the pitchforks down until more facts emerge?

I understand the impulse. If you don't want to live anymore, but think it's unbearable to kill yourself and leave your children behind without their mother, it's not a large step towards killing them.

That woman, Andrea Yates, had a very long history of psychotic mental illness and paranoid schizophrenia.

She is now in a mental institution.

Her husband should have been on trial with her.

He was a religious freak who took advantage of his wife's delusional state to control her - to get her to stop taking her meds (then he couldn't lump her with all those kids), not use birth control (against the will of God), keep having his babies (although she'd been committed multiple times and psychiatrists had advised him or her to be sterilised, not have any more kids, etc.).

The day before she did what she did, she'd been released from a psychiatric hospital. Against medical advice, but her insurance wouldn't pay anymore and of course, her husband sure as hell wasn't.

She was so deranged, she did what she did, dressed most of them back up and put them in bed. Sat on the couch, rang 911 and told them God and the colour blue had told her to do it.

Now she was truly so insane she was eventually found not guilty by reason of insanity in Texas. Texas, a state well-known for throwing the book at criminals and executing more than any other state.

errrrr - there aren't even any postmortem results yet, and the mother hasn't been charged or even questioned by the police. Obviously she may well have killed the children, but I think this type of chat is in very poor taste when no one actually knows what happened.
Does innocent till proven guilty ring any bells with anyone?

She was truly insane, but her husband couldn't be bothered with the kids he kept getting on her, the SOB.

He's since remarried and had more kids.

She's still in an asylum, all drugged out and still delusional.

He even moved states to get the authorities off his back with regards to his ill wife.

proseccogirl....its in the news and anyway we discuss everything in poor taste dont we??? do you expect the thread to die because you dont like it??

its just discussion

"it reminds me of that evil bitch who drowned her something like 8 kids (one by one) in the bath in the States."

We don't know what caused this behaviour. There is a lot of talk that some medication can affect people. Andrea Yates was on medication

www.ssristories.com/show.php?item=525

More stories of similar horrific killings where people were taking medication are at
www.ssristories.com/

The rot in hell, evil bitch comments are made by people unaware of the full facts.

Andrea Yates was insane. That is why she is now in a mental hospital. She had been diagnosed as clinically such several times, by a number of doctors in different states.

She had been committed/sectioned on more than one occassion as well for delusional behaviour and acute psychosis.

She was about as nuts as it comes, but still left in charge of small children by sane people who were supposed to care about her and who were responsible for her because she was too ill to be responsible for herself, by people who didn't want her to take her medication because then she was incapable of looking after the children, as if she was in the first place.

We do know what caused her behaviour, claig. Her insanity. Hence, why she is now confined for an indefinite length of time to a Texas state mental hospital.

well I personally believe that some of these medicines can induce insanity. I doubt she was insane when she was 10 years old and not on medication.

No, her psychosis began post-partum.

It was not caused by medication, in fact, her husband frequently disallowed her to take medication and/or medications more targetted to her condition, especially because he felt they should have as many children as God allowed.

but medication may exacerbate the condition. There is lots about these medicines available on the net. If you look into these mass killings you will be surprised by how many people were under medication.

also it is known that to stop taking these medications suddenly is also very dangerous. People need to come off of them very gradually. If her husband stopped her taking them suddenly, this may have affected her mental balance.

She's in a mental hospital now because she's still insane, claig. She met the legal definition of insanity due to the overwhelming evidence of her long history of post-partum induced psychosis.

Her condition began as post-partum psychosis and persisted and worsened as she kept having babies.

When she committed the crime, her youngest was a young baby.

Who knows what the case is here.

US news agents have picked up the story. Mr Riggi grew up in Colorado and Mrs Riggi is either from or has family in California.

Her medication was not found to be a cause in the crime, claig. Her psychotic condition was.

Again, who knows about Mrs Riggi and what may have been behind her actions, if she did in fact commit any crime at all.

so if the judge had concerns....why did he not do anything? he's the one who can enforce things.....he has to take some responsibility here?

They didn't know where she was, ilove.

I'm not doubting she is insane. I think there may be more behind her insanity and violence.

www.breggin.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=197

Breggin was involved in a similar case to the Andrea Yates case, which ended up in litigation, and mentions the similarities.

breggin.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=179

Claig, there is an interesting argument to be had as to whether and when drugs cause suicidal and/or homicidal impulses by themselves and when they simply 'improve' patients sufficiently (e.g. by ameliorating the effects of depressive illness) enough to enable the patient to act out a pre-existing impulse. Most times, for obvious reasons, we can't know which it is.