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Remember, remember to Fly through November, but Fledglings will chatter a lot

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BlueEyeshadow · 31/10/2013 11:06

If you are strugging with C.H.A.O.S. (can't have anyone over syndrome) and S.T.U.F.F. (something that undermines family fun) then this is the thread where we (loosely) follow the step-by-step Flylady housekeeping system (in our own, unique, relaxed style) with lots of chat, support and Wine and Cake along the way.

This little-and-often system is designed so that you can follow a series of steps and routines each day (which gradually become second nature) in zones of the house which are designated weekly; defining and minimising housework - which in theory should leave you with loads more time to do someting more interesting instead!

At the same time it is intended to reduce that panicky "rabbit in headlights" feeling when you are overwhelmed and everything needs doing all at once. No problem if you miss a day or two; just jump right back in and it will all come around next month again!

We advise not signing up to receive the Flylady e-mails as you will be inundated! All the information you need will be linked here on a daily basis.

From the first of the month, we will be following Flylady's steps and routines using a three-pronged approach (dependent on the stage everyone is at):

  • start or repeat baby steps
  • repeat baby steps + do 15 mins a day decluttering in the current zone
  • reinforce babysteps and do daily missions if you have finished decluttering.

[And if you are really enthusiastic and have finished decluttering - you can go on to detailed deep cleaning in each zone.]

More info here on getting started and Flying lessons. Here's the launch pad for more experienced fledglings. Don't be put off by the barf-tastic language of the site - the underlying system is sound!

Humungous thanks to SlimChance for leading us through October and such a copy-and-pasteable OP.... Thanks

All welcome!!

OP posts:
MercuryRising · 02/11/2013 21:30

Thank you Ellie you have made me smile instead of stressing (although that could be the cheap plonk) I am very jealous of your minions Grin I would love some!

Swanhilda · 02/11/2013 21:31

Hi.
[looks nervously around]

I forgot it was November.

Yesterday I had a wisdom tooth pulled out, so today I am malingering. Dh is getting a bit fractious after a whole day of organising things and swearing though as usual v helpful. He was rather surprised when someone dropped some flowers round to say thank you to me for something walking round for two miles with their child at Halloween. Ha! He didn't realise I had admirers!!

Just and Engels hope you are managing today.

Whoknows Cake
Honu CakeFlowers
Goth I love the calming influence of your cake

And my good news for the day is that Ds2, aged 11 despite not having been to dentist for 4 years, at yesterday's rather embarrassed belated appt was found to have no decay at all. Wow. Despite sweets, bad brushing, juice, apples last thing. It must be the amount of cheese he consumes or it is genetic. Dd had problems with her teeth.

BitchytheGreat · 02/11/2013 21:36

No extra time off then Miss Ellie you have important work to do! But tonight, tonight there is wine, and vodka, and whiskey and something that tastes rather lovely but i have no idea wtf is.

BitchytheGreat · 02/11/2013 21:37

Give it time Mercury, you will too have minions. And I shall be very jealous.

elliepac · 02/11/2013 21:38

Grin mercury.

swan, ouch re tooth. You deserve to take it easy Smile.

MercuryRising · 02/11/2013 21:52

Bitchy I am slightly worried about the something which tastes lovely but is unidentofiable - that will result in major hangovers tomorrow!!

GoingGoingGoth · 02/11/2013 22:00

Swan wisdom teeth are a bloody nightmare.

Not sure if the cake is calming, I only remembered an hour ago to add the cherries! Thank god I didn't cook it straight away.

Bitchy do we all get minions, or just the teachers?
We used to have a Far Side cartoon pinned up in the lab titled 'this lab needs more Igors'

BitchytheGreat · 02/11/2013 22:05

Depends Goth. Reckon you can help me create enough to go around? There are other scientists about and if we all work together we could take over the world create enough minions

mercury - not thinking about it tonight. Lots of water and sleep is my plan for shortly.

MercuryRising · 02/11/2013 22:06

Goth I think we should all get minions and then we wouldn't need to fly.

BitchytheGreat · 02/11/2013 22:09

But but but, what would i do with my broomstick? And perhaps I like to fly? Shock

dizzyday07 · 02/11/2013 22:49

Swan - I can beat you on the dentist front as today I took my 9yr old DD for the first time - and that was only because she cracked a tooth Blush. I have had a real phobia since I was young and haven't been myself for about 15years! She has a couple of tiny holes that need seeing to so now I feel more guilty than I did before.

Not much no flying done today though as DH has been cooking I need to scrub the kitchen and associated pots before bed!

It is our anniversary tomorrow and I have been told we are leaving the house at 11am so assume we are going out for lunch!

BlueEyeshadow · 02/11/2013 23:07

Once again I have got distracted. This time by making a photobook for my mum...

Glad to see the Wine and Cake has had a mellowing effect on the thread!


Babystep 3 is to keep on as you've been doing and to explore the Fat Fairy's website.

Sunday is Renew Your Spirit Day.

OP posts:
ToffeeWhirl · 03/11/2013 00:16

The 'house inspection' is over and I think we may have been awarded an 'outstanding' Wink. Tricky relative made several favourable comments about how tidy our house was and not a single criticism. I think that's a first.

My DS1 skateboarded all the way down to the supermarket to buy something I'd missed off my shopping list, so that I could cook the recipe I'd planned for lunch Smile.

We are now enjoying our very tidy house, just as Feet suggested. Just have to avoid opening any cupboards!

Sorry so many of you were upset by Judith's post. To be fair, I didn't find it critical of us or judgemental at all. I thought she was just trying to be helpful.

Engels - so sorry you are having such a rough time ((hugs))

Mercury - best of luck on your placement next week.

swan - hope you get over the wisdom-tooth extraction soon (but not so soon that you can't enjoy some more rest first Wink).

dizzy - Happy Anniversary Thanks.

PositiveAttitude · 03/11/2013 08:38

Good morning all. Unlurking again and determined to get on track this month and stay there! RL has been a bit of a pain recently but I am now looking forward - onward and upward and all that! Wink.

But seeing as it is now renew the spirit day I am off to church, then been invited for lunch, which is far scarier than it sounds as it is with a boss and his team, who I have never met......I hate meeting new people and should be banned on a Sunday!! Deep breath and paste that smile on!!! and try and look intelligent and act as if I really do know what I am doing!
If DS is out this afternoon then I have the choice of being a lazy arse or doing a quick blitz.........I will keep you posted on my choice!

Happy Anniversary Thanks Dizzy

Well deserved Wine Cake and Flowers for surviving Ofsted Ellie

Well done for the outstanding house Toffee

Brew for Bitchy who I suspect could be in need of something soothing this morning. Wink

Oh and now I cant scroll......roll on January when hopefully I can get a new laptop!!! Grrrrrr. so major waves to everyone else.
and have a lovely day.

ToffeeWhirl · 03/11/2013 08:49

Hope the scary lunch goes well, PA. I think you deserve to be a lazy arse after that Smile.

Woken up far too early by DS2 again, but at least I wasn't greeted with the usual chaos downstairs. Inspired by the clear surfaces, I have already unloaded the dishwasher, washed up the breakfast things and put them away straight away Shock and put the first load of washing on.

Am going to suggest to DH that we invite MIL round to lunch today, before the dining-room table gets covered with stuff again!

Hope everyone has a relaxing Sunday.

WhoKnowsWhereTheTimeGoes · 03/11/2013 09:36

Morning all,

Lots of washing and ironing to do today, the house isn't too bad as we have guests and DH ran the hoover round the whole house before they arrived yesterday. DS is going off on a school residential tomorrow (and is very excited) so we need to help him pack for that too.

Dizzy - my DD is 7 and has 4 fillings already Blush. I feel terrible about this, and have just received their checkup reminder, I am dreading taking her. Also last checkup the pair of them played up big time, it was awful. I suspect DD has inherited DH's awful teeth, DS (9) is so far filling free (he might be lucky and have inherited mine, which are pretty trouble free).

Swan - ouch to wisdom tooth. Mine have never appeared but the dentist says there is still time.

Toffee - well done on that list.

PA - good luck with the lunch.

Goth - you have taken me on a trip down memory lane, I used to work in a lab covered in Far Side cartoons too Smile.

Judith - thank you for your post, but as others have pointed out, it really isn't that simple for everyone (I know I am not familiar with your circumstances either). This thread aims just to help people along in small steps and/or hold their hand when for whatever reason housework has to go on hold. I'm glad you found something that works for you.

Revolve - the thread title is deliberately full of in jokes so that people aren't surprised when they join in and find that a lot of the posters already "know" one another. Many posters have come and gone, often people go away for a bit and come back, it really is a very friendly place and all are welcome - however inevitably there are differences of opinion once in a while. I honestly do not believe anyone has posted here in spite (this weekend or ever).

MercuryRising · 03/11/2013 10:38

Morning.
I can't believe it's the last day of half termSad
So far I have done:
Made beds
Dw on
Chicken roasted
Veg prepared
Taken dd to swimming lesson

Still to do:
2 hour online powerpoint presentation (which I should have done before getting sidetracked by wine Blush )
Cook roast
Iron school shirts
Make sure everything is ready for the morning.
Food shop

PA I hope lunch goes well.

Have a lovely relaxed day everyone.

Slimchance · 03/11/2013 11:31

Morning all! Hope everyone OK.

We got back yesterday evening in foul mood and foul weather. Trip a bit too short to outweigh stresses of journey! We went to the UK in the end (idea was to do some urgent probate/banking stuff on Fri but dh couldn't find half of the relevant docs so all a bit stressful to put it mildly ie 3 hr frantic search before departure - in his office not mine thankfully - and further delays - so whole point of trip (to help sil) was diminished and weather, winds, and flooding in one area, was a pain.

I swear, that dh and I were so cross with one another at one point that as I stood in the Chunnel car park with dd, I actually contemplated letting dh drive off without us. [Capitulated of course!!]

Anyway, despite all of the above, it was nice to get away ... . Had great time at the zoo (Howletts branch) and we now have poppies which are difficult to get hold of here. And drank lots of Wine after getting home last night (first time I've indulged since beginning of July) without ill effects so feeling suprisingly chipper!

How is everyone here? Crikey, I always miss the interesting bits ... !! [Hands Blue large bottle of Wine]

As one of the original instigators of the thread four years ago, and having only just quickly scanned the last couple of days posting, I'll hope you'll forgive me the following... .

Fwiw, like Toffee, I didn't see Judith's post as deliberately judgemental (agree with what Whoknows has just said about it). And I actually agree with Judith in parts when she says that keeping on top of the household chores take a hell of a lot more time than anyone bargains for.

But I do absolutely see where Just and Bitchy and others are coming from because it did come across as a bit smug imho. (Although I do realise everyone has to find their own way with this.)

But it really isn't as simple as getting off your bum in the evening to do more chores = house nice and orderly and shiny.

I don't have anything like the severity and number of issues to battle with that many of us have on here, but nonetheless, I struggle to keep my house in any sort of decent shape and I feel effing guilty about it frankly given the fact that I don't have full time employment and only 1 child.

The fact is, is that I live in a house that is dark, cold, half empty in parts, half falling down in parts, brick-dust dirty in parts, with holes in the walls and floorboards, chunks of plaster falling off and leaks. And it's located in a part of the world where I wouldn't particularly choose to live if it was my decision - although that has lots advantages - it nonetheless comes with its challenges. We can't afford to fix it atm because all our spare money is going to sil to provide full time support for fil who has advanced dementia 800Km away. So no amount of getting off my bum and tidying in the evening is going to alter the fact that, for the moment, we are camping in this unrenovated house with old, wobbly furniture and are surrounded in a sea of clutter and boxes that has no proper home (owing to lack of permanent proper storage). And it's incredibly demoralising ... .

But this thread, the supportive and lovely people on it, and the Flylady system have kept me sane because it has given me a means of cutting through the crap and focusing on one or two three things that I can control alongside others who are battling too. I honestly don't know what I would have done without it over the years.

And I must be honest too and admit to being lazy inasmuch as the thought of "hoovering high traffic areas like lounges every day/every other day, mopping kitchen floor twice/three times a week etc" fills me with depression and dread. Another important aspect of this system and this thread is to learn how to minimise the time spent doing ground-hog soul-destroying stuff and do much more interesting things instead!!

And finally, finally, (sorry - know I am rambling on here as usual) I do agree with Ellie and others that the people on here are the opposite of spiteful.

We have always really tried to make newcomers feel really welcome and I apologise Revolvenotevole and Judith if you think we have "an entire code of conduct worked out that people must somehow decipher by telepathy". If it comes across that way, it is simply a by-product of knowing one another fairly well because the thread is long-running, and is absolutely NOT something done intentionally to exclude others. Please do stay posting on the thread and you will see that this is the case!

Right, phew, please forgive the long essay, but this thread is really important to me!!

[PS - if you recognise me from the above - please don't out me for the same reason.]

Back to Flying ... .

Ta da:
cleared up kitchen from last night Blush
unpacked cases
re-booted laundry
made veg soup
made pastry

To do:
long walk to clear my head
sewing with dd
empty dishwasher
puree soup
polish dd school shoes
sort uniform/iron/lay out for tomorrow
admin
two urgent bank payments
get cash from bank
hear dd recite poetry hwk/do guitar practice
Strictly results
Sausage and mash for supper
Early bed

Slimchance · 03/11/2013 11:58

[swoops in on high winds, parks broom-stick alongside Bitchys]

Sorry - that was all very "me" "me" as usual - haven't caught up with everyone properly yet ... .

Sorry you are going through such a tough time atm Engels and sorry to hear you have to go back to hospital next week. Thanks

Ouch Swan hope your are ok post wisdom tooth extraction!

Oh dear PA lunch with your boss on a Sunday sounds like hell on earth to me - hope not too onerous - and hope you are OK generally!

Mercury v. sad that the holiday is over here too!! Hope your presentation goes well - bet you will knock 'em dead - and good luck next week as a whole Flowers.

Happy anniversary Dizzy!! Hope you enjoyed your surprise outing!

Enjoy your post-visitor-shiny home Toffee!! (And congrats on your 'outstanding' report from she/he of the gimlet eye!!) Crikey though, your preparatory list brought tears to the eyes Grin. Take it steady now! You deserve a break after all that lot!

Arf at more Igors Goth! Grin V. impressed by your C** cake making!

Hope washing machine sorted soon Ellie

Hope you are OK Just Wine

Spread-sheet sounds impressive HOnu and hope after effects of extension building sorted now (clearing up after builders is hard).

Feetheart hope your ds enjoyed his birthday and that you survived the party!

Waves to Whoknows Lauren Stillwearingoddsocks Castle Nicknacks and anyone I've missed and, last but not least , a very warm welcome to Rummikub AngryBudda Owlface Petmyunicorn Witco Babapeela82 Splatpancake and any other newcomers I've missed!!

Slimchance · 03/11/2013 12:00

Oh lawd, sorry, brain like a sieve, forgot Blue of all people!! Thanks for links!!!

Slimchance · 03/11/2013 12:05

Argh .. missed Saturn too!!

Slimchance · 03/11/2013 12:06

[Sorry - obviously left my brain in GB]

Slimchance · 03/11/2013 12:10

[Obviously did because I have just discovered that I've spent the last few days wearing one black shoe and one blue shoe Confused.

BitchytheGreat · 03/11/2013 12:21

I am sorry sc but can't help it Luffs ya really!!!

Slimchance · 03/11/2013 12:45

Thanks Bitchy Blush Grin. It's even worse than that actually because having blurted out that exceedingly long and circuitous post, and several others, I realise that I missed out the central argument (and it is a rather bad omission for which I apologise) addressed to Judith and Revolvenotevolve which is ...

... that my issues with my house/housekeeping etc (expressed below) are merely ones of bricks and mortar. What many other contributors to this thread have been very measured in not saying, are that they are dealing with special needs, bereavement, infertility, serious and disabling illness, elderly parents, financial hardship, depression, anxiety, unemployment and many other challenges, sometimes in combination with one another. Now I know that many people (possibly with tidy homes!) face the same issues. However, it is bloody obvious that these issues impact on the amount of time and the mental energy someone has to devote to housework. That is why Judith may not have received the reaction she perhaps anticipated.

But - may I stress - she and Revolve are still very welcome back here!

Phew. Right. Really will push off now and go for a much needed walk!

Sorry!