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Pointy sticks at the ready... and a few choc biscuits and brews too.

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carrotsandcelery · 26/01/2012 14:29

OP posts:
bessie26 · 07/02/2012 13:08

I won't be flying until later this afternoon. DD2 was up late & the sun is out, so I think we'll be going out for a little walk - hope it's cold enough for a hat as i forgot to wash my hair last night & I will need to hide it! Blush

BlackCatTryingToFly · 07/02/2012 14:26

I'm back, DM did turn up so I only got 1 x washing up done.

How did you do Zoo?

liveinazoo · 07/02/2012 14:59

just pop in quickly...
sorry didnt come back got "in the zone" and decided to run with that

2 lots washing up
s+s bathroom
made carrot cake for friend
washed up cake making stuff
scrubbed and disinfected all worksurfaces in kitchen
15mins decluttering under the stairs

along 2 irritatingly long phone calls
2 snacks for little zoo and a drink
a quick puzzle with l.zoo

anyway must dash

be back at 4

bessie26 · 07/02/2012 15:30

hmmm... too much cooking going on here again today. dinner is in the slow cooker (the sauce tastes fab!), now to prep up the kids tea

BlackCatTryingToFly · 07/02/2012 16:01

Well done Zoo! Grin It's great if you can get in the right mood for cleaning.

I must try and do a bit more in a minute.

liveinazoo · 07/02/2012 16:04

oooh bessie.love the sound muffins-are they done in fairy cake cases?

kids walked in and smelt carrot cake had made for a friend and demanded to know why hadnt made them anythingHmm

feel a batch banana and oat muffins coming to my rescue(with potental for pud with custardGrin

making squash and butterbean casserole tonight.will post if nice later

bessie26 · 07/02/2012 16:17

zoo I've not made these ones before, but am planning to just grease my muffin tin like I did when I made spinach & feta muffins I've read that savory muffins stick to paper cases (although I don't understand why).

When I get a spare few minutes I need to sit down & look at the lakeland website, DH's grandma always gets us vouchers for xmas & I'm planning to get a fancy silicon muffin tray Grin

Your muffins & casserole sound yummy - perhaps you should start writing them down on a blog too? I find it makes finding the recipes much easier!

Right, just got side-tracked talking to my grandad & I think DD2 has made me a little present I need to deal with before I start on these muffins!

BlackCatTryingToFly · 07/02/2012 16:18

I have a case of CBA and am sitting here with a Brew and biscuits.

I'm thinking of Jacket potatoes with toppings for DH and me. The DC don't want it so I think I will need to look in the freezer. Hmm

liveinazoo · 07/02/2012 16:42

bin procrastinating playing on MN since last posted
(great thread on old fashioned sayings/phrasesGrin)

i really should get tea on(hurrah it only takes a casserole dish and a jug so not much washing up Grin)

maybe fish fingers for your kids(old faithfulSmile)?

BlackCatTryingToFly · 07/02/2012 16:49

I am very tired now so can't see much more Flying getting done here.

Fish fingers might be the answer. I have just posted in food for inspiration.

bessie26 · 07/02/2012 17:18

Both DDs are scoffing down the sweet potato muffins - hurrah!!

bessie26 · 07/02/2012 17:33

what's for tea thread

liveinazoo · 07/02/2012 17:45

so is that in a bun tin(fairy cake size) or muffin tin(standard or mini)?
casserole smells good...hope it tastes as nice!

liveinazoo · 07/02/2012 18:29

squash and butterbean casserole
500g squash,chopped(i cheated and got a frozen bag from waitrose and defrosted it)
tin butterbeans,drained
2 tomatoes,chopped(i used from a tin)
125g mushrooms 1/4'd
1tsp thyme
1level tbsp cornflour
7floz veg stock

mix cornflour in a little cold water then add stock and thyme
popall veg in casserole dish and pour over.
cover and bake 45mins to 1hr til tender 200oc/400of/gas 6
serve with couscous(add fine chop sping onion and fine chop red pepper to it if desired)

i added garlic to casserole(we garlic freaks) and a little extra stock to cover it all(then used some that liquid to soak couscous)

kids loved it as much as i did.we have a new family favourite!Grin

BlackCatTryingToFly · 07/02/2012 18:44

anyone got a pointy stick ready? I really need to do a bit of washing up/tidying in the kitchen --but am too tired--.

bessie26 · 07/02/2012 19:10
Scout19075 · 07/02/2012 20:15

Argh. I've just had yet another argument discussion regarding the tidying. I am constantly telling him how unhappy I am living like this, how TS needs more space to play (and clutter-free space). I'm the one here 24/7 and looks at it day in and day out. I'm depressed at the thought of walking through the door from being out and he doesn't get it. TS has never been a tantruming baby/toddler (he has some, of course, but no where near the quantity and/or intensity of some of his peers) and they've lessened since I've been able to give him more space to play, clear boxes for his toys, etc.

I hate it.

I don't know what to do any more.

(And we only have four rooms kitchen/dining room, living room, our bedroom and TS's bedroom/study. So TS doesn't even have his own room and it, like the rest of the house, is full of cr@p-- stuff. We look at/talk about moving and I'd so love a three-bed house just so there's one room full of MrScout's stuff. I don't want a craft room (used to want one) or a library or anything, just some place to store his sh!t.)

BlackCatTryingToFly · 07/02/2012 21:04

Scout We used to be in a 2 bedroom house with not enough space. It was a complete nightmare so you have my sympathies!
Men just don't seem to get it though. I do think they have some kind of mess blindness.

I'm off to bed soon as I'm cream crackered!

bessie26 · 07/02/2012 22:41

Do you have anywhere, like loft space or a shed it could be moved to? Does he have family nearby who have some space it can be dumped moved to? I think you are being very patient - by now I think I would have gone mental told him that either he sorts it out or I throw it out!

What does he say? Is he saying he will sort it out, but just never getting round to it, or does he just not understand how much it is affecting you & TS?

I remembered this thread from last year. Perhaps something of there might help?

Scout19075 · 08/02/2012 06:50

We had a bit more of a less emotive conversation about it later last night. He's "stressed" because things are moving and he's "worried" about things that might have gone (I think it's more than that, to be honest). I calmly stated my position again. I cannot live in this house 24/7 staring at this stuff when there's no proper place for TS to play. I don't think he fully appreciates everything I gave up/got rid of when I moved here (and am therefore a bit resentful of random pieces of paper from 1991 when I have so little left).

Our shed (what it is) is full of outside stuff and random boxes. Our loft is rapidly filling of what is his. His parents' house is the same (with their own stuff, the things of his sisters and MrScout's). To give you an idea, they have a collection of toys in their lounge for the grandchildren (oldest being 12, the youngest is TS). All of the toys in there were MrScout's or his sisters'. MrScout is younger than me (33) and his oldest sisters are older than me (40). They've had some of these toys for 40 years. While I'm all for keeping one or two special things it screams volumes to me that instead of sharing these toys when they've all been outgrown they kept them stored, somewhere, for all of these years. And I presume when the last grandchild outgrows them (there's another on the way so TS won't be the youngest) they'll go back into storage.

I thought about this yesterday and while his parents are lovely people and I get along really well with them I do "blame" them to an extend. Apparently he was a bit like this when he was young and, for fear of upsetting him, didn't force the issue too much (I think a combination of being the youngest, the only boy and not wanting trigger seizures (MrScout does have a seizure disorder but I don't think they're triggered by external forces)). When they do push the issue they do it big and at once so it does set off a stressed & angry reaction. If it had been slow & steady it wouldn't be such a big deal. And I think this is part of the problem here I went too quickly and MrScout noticed.

On the one hand he's appreciative of what I've done/the space/things I've found but on the other hand it's a bit of "oh, crap, you moved this pile." We agreed that this weekend we're going to B&Q and are going to buy loads of "loft friendly boxes" (our loft hole isn't very big and we have to climb a step-ladded to get in so boxes can't be too bulky or heavy). We're then going to fling in everything of his that he wants but that I don't want in my living space. To be honest, we've done this exercise before but the boxes are still out and either collapsing under the weight (cardboard) or gathering dust in the house. I've said, and got him to agree, that I have complete control over what is mine and Toddler's. He got a bit panicy/stressed when I said I'd be in charge of "swapping out" TS's toys, wanting to know what "swapping out" meant so I had to patiently explain rotating toys (to which I got a bit of "oh, you do that a bit now"). I think I will push the issue of "put the boxes into the loft immediately." I did also get him to agree to shrink the Laura Table in our living room which takes up lots of space and aquires a lot of cr@p clutter (it doesn't collapse/come apart, which was my hope so we could store it and get more bookshelves). By shrinking it I clear up more floor space and there's less space for stuff. I'll use underneath to store the toy boxes and the top for bigger toys (like his FP castle) so it's less likely to aquire magazines, cords and random bit of paper.

And breathe. Thank you for listening to reading my rant. I feel a bit better this morning, especially with a firm plan in place.

Scout19075 · 08/02/2012 07:12

Sorry about the whinge. Blush

bessie26 · 08/02/2012 07:18

No problem scout, glad you have a plan Smile

Scout19075 · 08/02/2012 07:43

We're having one of those busy, social days today -- group this morning, meet up with friends this afternoon and Seniors this evening. No flying will get done (though, see previous post, might need a day or two from it to keep MrScout from having a complete breakdown) until this evening when I do the washing up.

BlackCatTryingToFly · 08/02/2012 09:42

Morning all, It's SO COLD! out there again. It took me a little while to get myself together after the school/nursery run this morning. I am warming up with a Brew and some housework in a minute.Wink

What do you all have planned?

liveinazoo · 08/02/2012 09:50

scout sounds a bit like mrscout has ocd(hoarders) its often hereditary..challenge and proving that nothing bad will happen is the only was or he will get worse and worse.

you dont want it and its not good for TS.on those grounds it has to change.
id get it all into the loft this weekend(and then try and get agreement after a set time to work through a box for a set timedecluttering with flylady rules(dont lok at it/havent used it out it goes))

it will be very stressful but we're here for youThanks

its peerishing here
kids had porridge for breakfast "pimped" with strawberries and vanillaGrin

this weather reminds me of the downsides of no carpets(laminate/vinyl floors)
on these grounds i intend clean furiously to keep warm while the kids are at school/nursery(tight mum savng moneyGrin)

so im off to fly hard and fast til have pop to pay a bill before colecting dd3

will be in for the 1oclock club anyone wants to join me.lurking from 12