fledglings falling out of the nest thread

[IceColdBitchy]

Ok So a new year a new thread.
You know the ropes flying the fledgling way.
Decluttering 15mins at a time in each zone.
Babysteps and missions.

Sunday is renew your spirit day and seeing as today is new years days I hope there aren't too many evil hangovers in existance.

Babystep 1: shine you shine. yes we know this one but do you shine it the fat fairy way? cant remember? check here

And for a treat as it is sunday no mission.

Oh and can i just may 2012 bring you productive decluttering and flying so your houses step closer to those of your dreams and house work no longer be that evil monster that dominates.

Hi everyone,

Well Im having a much better day today :)

-wipe down kids table twice done once
-wipe down kitchen
-wipe down bathroom done
-take car to garage half did as warning lights went off . Mechanic said something about me not driving far enough which I dont understand
-ironing leaving as totally whacked out

Also done
-15 min declutter a cupboard of 'important' stuff, most went to be shredded. Found letters dated 2010
-walked for ages going to a variety of shops looking for popcorn and have come back with non. Minstrels are soooo bad for me though, but oh well.
-rang doctors to see if blood results had come back done and all clear so will just have to put up with being cold and tired all the time.

swan and chitchat I wasnt the only house hit, another had a window break This isnt the first time and it wont be the last either. I just cant take any more and want out. Im actually having to move to a house over an hour drive away just to move away from this street , but having said that Im looking forward to the change. I think its effected me more because I should have been moved by now. It was November when we were first offered the house and I was hoping that I could hold it off till the christmas holidays, but now its mid Jan and Im here till at least Feb.

On a positive note, I did find out that the reason why its held up is because they are decorating. So that means that we are moving into what I hope will be a nice house so we have got a good start. When we moved into our current home back in 2005 it was a shit-hole. The previous tennants were kicked out so trashed the place, the council did bare minimum to it. For the first 2 years we had a family thing to deal with and take care of so the house took a back foot, meanwhile we are storing things and hoarding things and generally not really looking after it, Hence me now trying to fly.

So cant wait to move DH just said it might be someone who thinks they have complained. I feel guilty now cos I have complained at times. Then again I dont know them that well so they might have annoyed the wrong people, but they seem so nice.

Lauren Glad to hear your DD had a better nights sleep, hope she improves soon. Hope you can have a break too as its very tiring looking after poorly children never mind the stress it brings too.

Those of you with tiredness, Im always tired regardless of what time I go to bed. Hence the reason for my blood tests so know how you feel.

Anyway sorry Ive not done many personals, Ive been typing for ages. So now going to copy and paste just in case it doesnt post.

BBL

Sitting here having a laugh and thought I would share, FIL asked DH if he could get him an old herbal medicine while out and about as his has just run onut. One called Chlorodyne - googled it, the damn thing has chloroform, hemp and morphine hydrochloride in it!!!!

Andf FIL has probably carried his old one with him around the world with him!!!!! . And I thought MIL was good with decluttering

Hiya all

DD has been very sleepy today so despite DP being off work I have actually managed to get most of my list done

Ta da:
Put dishes away, shine sink done - will do evening glasses as evening routine
Clean bathroom - DP decided to take a 45 minute shower just as I said I would clean the bathroom while DD was sleeping, he got out the shower just as she woke up
Wash DD bedding done
DD laundry done and put away
Clean out rabbit indoor and out done
Todays mission- not sure what it is yet ill have to look! do every day
Paper work- lots of it about to do some
File last of paper mountain that I tackled yesterday done
Ring Elc about undelivered bookcase done
Ring ofsted about change to phone number done
Cuddle DD lots! done
Ring doctors to rearrange DD jabs done
Hoovered done

I haven't got anything exciting to report as I've been house bound I'm afraid!

Thank you everyone for well wishes

at your FIL chaos

Just a quick visit to beam with pride as I can now say that I have finished my list for today and (unusually) done everything on it.

Just need to stick dinner dishes in the DW and a quick surface wipe and I'm done. Waiting until Hairy Bikers finish first . Then probably a very early bed as I'm shattered. Roll on tomorrow when DH has promised he'll look after DS so tomorrow night will be and my nice comfy bed. As an aside, I washed our bed - and realised I hadn't actually ever slept in those sheets

This too will pass!

Hi NotVery - it's not easy to live somewhere where you are not comfortable, it will be such a relief when you move, but sounds like you are not letting it get to you too much, which is good.

Swan - what about getting the children to act out some of the stories (presumably they are taught parables??), do comic strips re-telling the story? (Am I right in getting the impression you are teaching the class too?)

MC Hope the job is going well - was it a teaching job? Were you away long? I have no idea how I'm going to stand in front of 30 teenagers after not having done it for years.

Someone earlier said 'thinking of you SC - what happened? Hope you're ok.

Bitchy I think your body is trying to tell you something!

Ok.. DH just walked back in, better keep this short!

Sorry, I'm just whizzing past again. Mega busy day plus the same in prospect tomorrow and Saturday.

Swan - DD(6) is having a soft play party on Sat, so not all thta much orgainising really, have just been chasing up non-RSVPers and doing party bags, plus presents, cake etc for DD. DS is having a football party in a couple of weeks, but I have been struggling to match up coach availability and sports hall availability. In both cases we have been negotiating the social minefield of how many from their classes they can invite / leave out, realised to my horror this week that we had left out one of DDs circle of friends (invites went out before Christmas hols) so much apologising and luckily she can come. Never used to give this stuff so much thought pre-MN.

Linzer - hope DS's lip recovers quickly. Here's a funny thread for you Bon Marche. Do you think our running thread has effectively died? I see the new one that started in Jan has just passed 1000 posts.

PA - how lovely of DD3.

Lauren - hope DD is better soon

Justone - SC suffered a bereavement about a week ago, she popped on to the thread and posted earlier in the week.

Notvery - sorry to hear things are not so good where you live, hope you get moved soon

Feel like death.
as soon as ds in bed i am there.

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Linkies:

Friday is clear car and purse out day - I am feeling smug as i did the car yesterday but that is only cos it is in the garage tomo.

Babystep 13: Do a mission

Missions

night.

Swan I was able to get on an NHS CBT course when pregnant with DD (about 4 years ago), and it made such a difference. If nothing else I came away realising that I wasn't the only weird one to have such "worries". I tried to continue using some of the techniques regularly, but go through phases. But actually it is reassuring to know that if things get that bad again, I can go and get my folder out and work through the tasks again, and maybe do some extra reading, etc.. It's like a back-up plan; something I find immensely reassuring.

DH has ordered Sink Reflections for me. Yay Now I just need to find time to read it...

Sorry you are feeling so poorly, Bitchy. Are you still on antibiotics? They always make DH feel exhausted and poorly. Hope you feel better tomorrow.

Just popping in to say goodnight. Have done the links on the monster thread, but no roundup or I'll be up for an extra half hour. Ready to crash now. Very pleased that I got through my list today and the house is looking pretty good. I even managed to get through the ironing and put the laundry away .

Night all.

Morning all,

Thanks for the links Bitchy, hope you're feeling better this morning.

swan We've been given a list of activities planned for the first communion classes. These include making a candle (which they did yesterday, although it was basically just sticking a cross and their initial onto a candle), making a folding cross (sounds a bit origami-like to me) and a clay cross, printing (decorating) a tablecloth, baking bread, visiting the church and going up the tower, and possibly visiting a pilgramage church.

WhoKnows I've just posted on the C25k thread to make myself get out later, but you're right, it seems to have died a death. Why does this always happen to us? I'll have to go and have a look at the other one, as I really need to join one for motivation but I don't feel like a proper enough runner to join the proper running thread.
The BM thread made me laugh; I wonder if Pistey saw it.

Am getting quite depressed about how little I'm managing to get done in the mornings and therefore about the state of the house, but it's my own fault in many ways... I'm going to make a determined effort to stay off MN this morning.

Morning everyone!

Get well soon bitchy

Just a list dump as I'm on my phone

Clean bathroom- urgent
Hoover
Wash up/ dry / shine sink - when there's pots to wash
Take dog for a long walk to give DD some fresh air- she's perking up a little bit but still mostly screaming
Pick up dog poo from out back
Pay a parent back their standing order from missed work this week
Risk assessment about new floor in kitchen -later
Risk assessment for new playgroup- later
Clean out bag
Clean out car
Sweep and mop hall and kitchen

BBL

Well, DS1 is off school again. He is clearly not ill, but has lost his nerve about going to school. What really irritates me is how he doesn't seem to realise that DH and I have anything else to do in the day. If he's off school, he expects us to be around for him. I don't know what would happen if we were both working out of the house. He has just stomped off because I said I was busy. DH and I were hoping to go out for a meal at lunchtime to celebrate my birthday on Monday (when he won't be here because he's starting a new job that day - he'll still be running his business part time, but he had an offer that was too good to refuse ). I have persuaded DS to go in for the afternoon only, which will give him a chance to face his fear - and give us a chance to have lunch together.

Anyway, I'm going to tackle basic routines and hotspots today. The house is looking pretty tidy, thanks to me sticking rigidly to the babysteps. It does help motivate me to be running the monster thread. I don't feel I can leave my sink in a mess when I am extolling the virtues of shiny sinks.

Linzer - you always sound so busy - I'm not surprised your house is suffering. It sounds to me as if you just have too much to do. I think you should remember that and not be so hard on yourself.

Lifebegins and Swan - I have had CBT myself and sit in on DS1's therapy sessions. It is all very useful. I particularly remember 'black and white' thinking and 'catastrophising', ie we tend to assume that the worst will happen, whereas the truth is that we may not be very comfortable about a situation, but the worst (whatever that may be) is most unlikely. CBT did retrain me to think about things a different way, which was very helpful.

Bitchy - how are you feeling today?

Must go and make things up with DS1. I have told him no telly and he has to do his homework whilst he's at home. It's very tiring being strict though!

just a quick post to get me on track...

Chaos and I think hemp is ahem cannabis isn't it....

Linzer what a fabulous list of activities I see we are still very desk bound...however we have always done quite a bit of drama/role play based on parables...Last night was pretty dire, talking to parents at parents' meeting...I am not cut out for this at all. I asked a bright icebreaking question to our group and everyone just looked at me as if I was pulling their teeth out! Our church hall is due to be renovated and atm it is soo soo bleak..(apart from lovely people of course)
Nice chat after as we were putting chairs away with a particularily upbeat sensible dad who said his dd was finding ss difficult, v reassuring to hear teething probs, made me realise I was lucky to have a child who trotted off to school quite happily every morning even if he did v little work...

Store cupboard: bread, olive oil, loo paper, dw powder Have promised dh that this lack of essentials will be remedied, lack of cupboard space has not been accepted as an excuse...we have now allocated a special cupboard to loo paper....
Clean out recycling hamper (gosh that makes it sound inviting) where I stuffed lots of horrid things before conservatory man [didn't] arrived, including all the washing that was half washed before the washing machine broke...

TIDY OUR BEDROOM. Disaster zone.

everything is grimy and dirty throughout house, but wll do obvious and that might help!!!

Outofbody well done of the ski-ing to whatever standard. You have lost me on the loopholes though.
PA kind dd. I know my dd would love to arrange somethign like that, I will try and train her to delegate - atm she does my finger nails, my toenails, my hair, my makeup

Morning all!

Have a bit of spare time so thankfully can get round to personals as I have been very bad recently and been doing more of a list dump - very naughty, but does help keep me on track. I do read all your posts, but phones are not conducive to scrolling and posting. Hope you all don't mind!

Bitchy hope you slept well and are feeling better - probably the AB's that are making you so icky. I find that they make me worse before making me better, or it could be that getting drugs makes my brain think that I'll now allowed to be ill, so I just collapse!
Toffee glad you've persuaded DS to go to school so you can be spoilt - have a HAPPY BIRTHDAY wish in advance.
LifeBegins, Swan and Toffee I'll own up to counselling, CBT and join you in the all or nothing thoughts. T'is very wearing as logically, I can see that situation "from the outside" and know I'm being irrational, but by thinking the worst at least I'm prepared. Even CBT hasn't got me out of that rut, but at least has got me to accept that it can be a "normal" response and not to beat myself up about it.
notvery glad to hear you're moving soon - we had to move from noisy neighbours (not as bad a situation as yours, but still left us feeling that we couldn't enjoy our own home) and it makes a world of difference to have a home you can relax in. re the paint stripper though!

waves to everyone I've missed!

Right, I've been a busy bee today.
Up, dressed and breakfasted
S&S done downstairs
Bed in DS's room stripped, washed and put back together
Kitchen cleaned
All doors leading from hall wiped down.
DS wash on
Shopping list for 2nd supermarket made (I did go yesterday, but to a different supermarket and they didn't have x, y & z, so off to another today )

Then this afternoon, it's shopping with DS, dinner for everyone and an early bed, so may not be back to post.

Hope everyone has a good weekend with lots of !

Just about still morning!

I've done a few errands and Aldi shopping as DH is home to look after chicken pox boy. THey're doing Wii bowling at the moment so should probably hoover upstairs while DS2 is distracted!

Got tons to do to get ready for visitors:
Keeping stuff back up in loft
Utensil rack back up
Painting stuff back in shed
Tip run
Hoover throughout
Mop floors
Find, tidy and make up spare bed!
Put NAtivity scene away (left up to give the Wise Men a chance to arrive at Epiphany!)

Lots more, I'm sure.

You are all probably right. Feeling worse cos of the antibiotics and finally allowing myself to be ill. Not done much today. Usual crazy contact wkend fri ahead of me. So as I have no idea when i will be back am going to post the linkies now so you have them.

Linkies

Saturday is family fun day

Babystep is to use your calendar properly

no missions

Have fabulous weekends!

it's very difficult isn't it toffee to persuade someone to think through the consequences of their behaviour on others, esp when it is something like anxiety. I think one of the wake-ups I experience daily is to remember what the children/DH make of my anxiety and and it does help me to try and be "braver" for want of a better word. I suspect your son is very sympathetic and thoughtful to you and it might help him if he knew he was helping you by going to school, even if for his own sake he couldn't face it. I think as with all things, habits help make things less scary. After a long break I'm not surprised he is feeling apprehensive. Have you thought of dropping him at school, or is the bus very "schooly"?

Congrats on Dh new job offer, does that mean you are not sharing business enterprise any more? I am rubbish at pm-ing, but I will try try try to let you know what DH's business is in next few weeks, as it is ridiculous I haven't told you...Mumsnet seems like such a protected zone doesn't it, so I haven't yet got into the habit of relating it to RL affairs

thanks for all comments about CBT everyone After a morning wading through treacle I've done the ironing and tried to mindlessly do a few tasks..like dw, clothes, breakfast table, piling up rubbish, changing pillowcases, making dcs' beds.

now I'm upstairs again in the loft, I am determined to do the hoovering in our bedroom, even if I don't manage to change the sheets. And also determined to make a shepherd's pie for tomorrow even if I have to move heaven and earth, so that Sat goes a bit more smoothly...

notvery I'm experimenting with sunshine for the cold and tired bit
could the car thing be that battery/catalytic converter need lots of revving? Mechanics have told me before to take my car on a very very long drive to restore it to health... but you are talking to the world's least technical person so cheers on that

sorry I didn't phrase the "consequences of anxiety" thing properly, just meant I think...can I simply this problem so that the maximum no of people in my family find happiness from this situation..including me...
I didn't mean adding worrying about other people's expectations as they ALWAYS make things worse...

done
cleared floor in bedroom
cleaned revoltng ensuite basin and loo
decs finally away in hamper
german language tapes under the bed
laundry downstairs
surfaces dusted
floor hoovered

hmm, i had four people yesterday ask if i was feeling overwhelmed, and an offer of help on the number-crunching/ accountancy/ legal side... i'm guessing that's bad, and good, respectively.

linzer, are you going to start new c25k or are you already whizzing around? (the threads always look enormous, so i haven't ventured on, but really need to)

swan, lol at your essential stores lack. we bought a whole new set of ikea pax wardrobes and arranged them artfully so that i have a whole wardrobe without doors that is dedicated to toilet rolls, kitchen rolls, lightbulbs, washing powder and cleaning supplies various in the utility room. i have another one that is literally chock full of bedding. and another one that is literally chock full of large storage boxes (one for each of my volunteer roles so that in theory i can't lose anything important!) i'm in desperate need of bread space though! and our olive oil in use is balance precariously over the cooker, with the drum in the drinks cupboard . my kitchen is Not Big Enough. or i have Too Much Stuff. i know which i reckon...

i did quite well yesterday on the getting stuff done front, but i've realised that subconsciously i feel quite isolated. i know this because the two meetings i had i literally went into overdrive and talked and overshared waaaaaaaay too much. so i'm trying to chill a bit and de-intensify so i don't become even more isolated lol!!!

today:

dw
wm
mop kitchen floor
vacuum (swept yesterday instead and tis still minging)
bank
birthday party stuff (call, buy, go, apparently. invite yesterday )

pondering a mission, but might just do purse instead...

Yes, we made it to the pub! We shared a bottle of Prosecco (yep, back on the booze again), ate far too much and talked without interruption from children . It was a novel experience and much appreciated.

Thanks for my pre-birthday wishes, Flying. And for your kind words, Swan. In fact, I hadn't told DS that DH and I were planning lunch as I didn't want to add to his worries. Knowing him, he's more likely to agonise over letting us down then, but still not be able to go to school. However, we did indeed give him a lift to school and I'm sure DH could do that again to get him back into the routine of it. The alternative is to arrange for DS to walk with a friend, but that is always a bit uncertain, with friends not turning up or being late.

We have told him that he can't have another sleepover until he has completed one whole week at school. This is partly to give him an incentive and partly because he gets so exhausted by school that sleepovers make him more likely to be ill. We'll just have to cross our fingers that he makes it in next week.

Do PM me, Swan. It would be good to swap book-trade info with you!

Am quite pleased with my Flying efforts this week. The house is looking pretty good, thanks to me keeping up with the basic routines and babysteps. If all goes as planned, next week I will actually have the house to myself for the first time in - oh, I don't know, months and months. So I will be catching up on MN Flying and decluttering furiously and my house will be pristine by next Friday .

Sorry for no more personals .

Off to the pub again tonight. I will have one glass of wine, then switch to water. I will, I will, I will .

Hiya all! No personals as I'm on my phone and it's date night tonight!

Glad you had a lovely day toffee

Ta da:
Deep cleaned bathroom and bathroom cabinet -took an hour
Hovered
Assembled a bookshelf (all on my own ) and put books on
Washed up/ dried/ shined sink
Swept and mopped floor
dusted and wiped down sofas- hurray for wetwipes
Washed and dried bathmats and hand towel in bathroom
Walked dog
Cleaned out handbag
Transferred money to parent of mindee
Paid bills

BB tomorrow

Evening! Glad you made it to the pub, Toffee - sounds wonderful! Glad DS did make it back to school as well.

at FIL's "herbal" medicine, ChitChat!

Ta da!
Made various phone calls
Dealt with various Papierkram
Put utensil rack back up
Reinstated utensils
Assembled pot-lid holder and tidied pot drawer (yay!)
Sorted loft stuff
Another bag to charity shop

To do:
Keeping stuff back up in loft
Utensil rack back up
Painting stuff back in shed
Tip run
Hoover throughout
Mop floors
Find, tidy and make up spare bed!
Put Nativity scene away (left up to give the Wise Men a chance to arrive at Epiphany!)