Dd doesn't want to do her GCSEs

[timothytoeseatenbyaghoul]

Can anyone help please?

Dd is home educated, she has a tutor that gives her work weekly. Dd has decided she will not be doing her GCSEs so why am I bothering to pay for a maths and English tutor.

She's just turned 16 in oct. What should she be learning if there's no goal in sight?

If your teen doesn't follow the national curriculum what do they do?

Thanks

Look guys I get your values and opinions but it's not needed here. I simple asked what does she need to do to get her through the next to years in the authorities eyes. It says she needs to be getting an education until she's 18 but if she's not learning maths and English is that ok? What's acceptable ? She loves cooking- reading- fashion- beauty- music- an art.

What are all the traveller husbands doing to take their kept wives on multiple holidays and drive nice cars? Presumably they also have no education as their mums haven't and their dads work?

I don't entirely agree with not doing GCSEs but:

The law states this

You must then do one of the following until you're 18:

stay in full-time education, for example at a college
start an apprenticeship or traineeship
spend 20 hours or more a week working or volunteering, while in part-time education or training

Now she is 16 she doesn't need to be learning in an English, Maths sense.

@Ohalrightthen

This is a recipe for abuse and misery.

100 agree

She’s narrowing her future choices at 16 :(

@timothytoeseatenbyaghoul
The job market will be very different in a post covid-19 and post Brexit world.

She will be competing with 100's of her peers for the jobs available.

A lot of companies have moved operations online, so a basic measure of English/ Maths will be essential for the majority of jobs.
She should at least have a level playing field when competing for jobs, not put herself at a disadvantage from the outset.

@1940s they work cash in hand and don’t pay tax because their culture doesn’t respect government or authority... but happy to use nhs services.

No wonder she suffered mh as her worth is not valued at all. I’ll never agree with a culture that oppresses women and it’s sad it exists in western society.

Motherofdeagons- that's not true what an assumption to make?!

@timothytoeseatenbyaghoul has she looked at a local college, they are usually less formal setting and have other vocational course options.

I don’t understand op, you portray your daughter as going to have a life of luxury, savings to take her through life, “all” the men having such successful businesses that their wives have materialistically great lives ,,,but you work as a postie, and your other two kids work jobs in construction and retail. So none of you seem to be living this wealthy lifestyle your daughter will have? Either as wives or husbands?

Is she happy with a life of just being a wife & mother then? If she has any ambition, intellect, interest in earning her own money she should do GCSEs. Sad that your ambitions for her are so limited.

FAQs- yes we've explored that root but she didn't feel comfortable with it. She was bullied in school and was discriminated against because of who she is. College wouldn't be any better.

@timothytoeseatenbyaghoul

She's not interested in doing them. Tbf I didn't do mine and I'm ok. My other two kids did theirs and done well but both dropped out of college after a year and have gone into work. Construction and retail.

So what should she be learning?

I work for a construction company. The colleges that provide our apprenticship training will only take on young people with Grade 4 in maths & English or some offer the chance to re-sit.

Bluntness100- and what is wrong with our jobs?

OP someone answered it up thread, she either needs to be in education (school/college) or doing an apprentiship for 20hours a week.

Those are the options

Ok, in that case I'd recommend she starts working or volunteering at a friend's salon or similar, and takes vocational courses part-time.

The more she asks her brain to do now, the better she'll do in the future. If she's going to flat out refuse to do GCSEs, she should do something's for the next two years that she finds interesting, and keeps her learning new things. If it turns out to be useful as well (e.g. a hairdressing course) then even better.

I dont think youll get many mumsnetters willing to endorse this kind of oppression of women by offering the kind of assistance you are looking for

Lazypuppy- she is in education.

Hazel- I was simple asking what classes as education other than maths and English?

Sorry, I missed your post about college.

If she won't go to a formal setting, then it's incredibly limiting. Night classes where the others are older maybe? But I don't know if there's a lower age limit.

So what OP wants is to know is how to convince “the authorities” her daughter is still in education when she isn’t

Can kids get an apprenticeship/volunteer if they are home Ed?

@Hoppinggreen

So what OP wants is to know is how to convince “the authorities” her daughter is still in education when she isn’t

That's how it is coming across, yes.

@timothytoeseatenbyaghoul so sorry I understand then why she is worried, but if a tricky situation, is it lack of confidence why she won’t do her GCSEs? Could she still take Art, is there any other GCSE subjects she is interested in.

Is there anyone else in the community who can offer an apprenticeship? It’s a bit of a faff to set up but might be the way forward.

I don’t have any GCSEs, I had a difficult background and ended up actually doing a degree and have a career the long drawn out hard way, partly also due to undiagnosed Dyslexia, but it was a lot easier back then, and I had a gift of the gab to push myself through.

Is there anyone who could mentor her? Sometimes the ones closest to us are not the ones we want to go to at that age, appreciation only comes later.

@timothytoeseatenbyaghoul

Can kids get an apprenticeship/volunteer if they are home Ed?

Home educated children can get onto an apprenticeship, but they would still have to fulfil the entry requirements for that apprenticeship. Most require you to have GCSE english and maths. If you dont have them, many apprenticeships require you to study for them alongside your apprenticeship e.g. doing one day a week at college.

Helping our at your aunt's hair salon doesnt count as education or an apprenticeship. It needs to be an actual accredited scheme.