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Dd doesn't want to do her GCSEs

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timothytoeseatenbyaghoul · 05/11/2020 11:15

Can anyone help please?

Dd is home educated, she has a tutor that gives her work weekly. Dd has decided she will not be doing her GCSEs so why am I bothering to pay for a maths and English tutor.

She's just turned 16 in oct. What should she be learning if there's no goal in sight?

If your teen doesn't follow the national curriculum what do they do?

Thanks

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m0therofdragons · 05/11/2020 12:49

Why a loving parent would limit their child’s ability to achieve in life is beyond me. GCSEs aren’t optional or up for debate. It’s not just the exams themselves, it’s the message that you’re giving that giving up because you can’t be bothered is fine. A terrible work ethic to set your dc.

WitchesBritchesPumpkinPants · 05/11/2020 12:50

@timothytoeseatenbyaghoul

Because the law states she has to be in education until she's 18 that's why I started the thread. I need to know what does she need to learn to prove to authorities that she is still in education? That's all I'm asking. This isn't an AMA thread I'm simply asking- what does she need to be "learning" to get her through the next two years? She has a tutor teaching her maths and English. She's not doing hers exams so I'm wasting money if she's no interest in learning.
If there are so many travellers girls who are not permitted/encouraged to get an education or job, why don't you know what they typically do at her age?
m0therofdragons · 05/11/2020 12:51

Our college wouldn’t let an under 18 do a beauty course without also studying for English and maths.

HarrietPotterska · 05/11/2020 12:52

@timothytoeseatenbyaghoul maybe she could learn something like bookkeeping or some other element of business that might be useful if she's going to go into hair and lashes?

Whysrumgone · 05/11/2020 12:55

@porcelinaofthevastoceanss

No education to speak of and married at 18. Blimey. That’s depressing.
I agree. The op thinks it’s fine because she’ll still get a new cars/holidays/material goods provided for by her husband. But those poor girls are being brought up with a complete lack of ambition, desire to better themselves, the drive to achieve something worthwhile. Op I think you should carry on with the tutor. Teaching your daughter maths and English is not a waste of money, these are basic life skills. She’s already wrote off her GCSEs and planning on marrying when she’s barely legal, she doesn’t need to be thick aswell
Embracelife · 05/11/2020 13:03

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ReplacementPlasticUterus · 05/11/2020 13:03

I need to know what does she need to learn to prove to authorities that she is still in education? That's all I'm asking.

When then perhaps that what you should have asked in the first place. If the education of girls in your community is so 'pointless', then presumably others will have the answer to keeping the authorities off your back until you can marry her off into a life of skivvying for her husband.

Embracelife · 05/11/2020 13:04

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Newnamenewopenme · 05/11/2020 13:04

Can she apply to beauty college rather than being home schooled? Then if she chooses to work when she is older she’s already qualified to start up her business?

Embracelife · 05/11/2020 13:05

Educating young women is so important in every culture.
Do not write off your daughter as being soneone a man can provide for
Ensure she gets gcses in maths and english at least

timothytoeseatenbyaghoul · 05/11/2020 13:06

Hoppinggreen- on child benefit

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Bufferingkisses · 05/11/2020 13:07

I would suggest you compromise with her, a base level of maths and English because functional maths etc are useful in every day life. Then focus her remaining time on something she is interested in. Perhaps learning a language might capture her interest? I think that, if she is not planning to use her education in a traditional sense she should be didn't something that she enjoys and keeps her interest. 2 years is a long time to slog if you are really not interested in what you are doing.

PineappleUpsideDownCake · 05/11/2020 13:08

Have you looked what beauty courses she could do? Local college? Or apprenticeship?

Hoppinggreen · 05/11/2020 13:09

And will you lose that if she isn’t in education?

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams · 05/11/2020 13:11

I really think you should get her to sit them.

If she has enough maths knowledge to function as an adult without struggling, she should be able to pass the GCSE if she's been doing one-to-one study for it.

What's the point in not taking it? It's a couple of days of stress, and then she's done it, or she thinks she won't pass, in which case I think she'll struggle to run her own business.

If she really refuses, then things that will be useful in the future. Converting recipes, being able to work out times, percentages and fractions, simple algebra (for things like how many tiles you need for a bathroom) without thinking. But, if you can do all that, you could pass the GCSE.

English isn't quite as bad, as long as she can read well. But it does teach good skills like writing in different ways (you wouldn't write a complaint letter in the same way as a holiday postcard, although both would contain descriptive language for example).

PineappleUpsideDownCake · 05/11/2020 13:13

Or if not, what else has she been doing the last 4 or 5 years? That might give us a clue as to her interests?

Is she with a partner? Does she want to marry them? Could she learn something useful to his buisness. Bookkeeping if he will be self employed?

I'm sure there's something she could find that would interest her. Near us there's a 2 year drama course or 2year watersports for example. Or animal handling.

Anything that is mixing with others and learning sometging new. Ideal if it leads towards something but it sounds like you dont want her to have a job as such.

Lots of apprenticeships could be useful in other ways. Im sure your tutor could help as they'd know you better. Or anyone you've beenninvolved with over the last 4 years or so?

TeachesOfPeaches · 05/11/2020 13:14

There are lots of travellers that post on Tiktok and their spelling and grammar is appalling. It's actually difficult to understand what they are trying to say which I'm sure would hinder them if they needed a job. I would make sure your daughter can at least understand the basics.

timothytoeseatenbyaghoul · 05/11/2020 13:16

She can read and write. Blimey I should hope so she's been in school for 13 years lol

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YetAnotherSpartacus · 05/11/2020 13:19

An odd thread. It seems as if both the OP and her daughter don't think that GCSEs are the way to go - so why the questions?

PineappleUpsideDownCake · 05/11/2020 13:19

Ah didnt realise she'd only just left school.

PineappleUpsideDownCake · 05/11/2020 13:19

Had she prepared for GCSE's at school?

timothytoeseatenbyaghoul · 05/11/2020 13:26

She's done her pe-art and English lit exams, she past her art but failed the others and her mocks weren't great. She's not interested in learning, my other two kids weren't but I encouraged them to stay and sit them. This one is a different kid all together and would just walk out of school that's why I pulled her out and got her a tutor.

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FizzyPink · 05/11/2020 13:26

Is it a given that every traveller man will have a high paying job that pays enough to support a whole family? I’m intrigued as whilst DP and I are both high earners and have no children to support, we don’t both have brand new cars, multiple foreign holidays each year and a huge house.

Also what if her husband loses his job? Or became disabled so he couldn’t work? Surely just English and Maths alone aren’t too hard to pass for a bit of future security

timothytoeseatenbyaghoul · 05/11/2020 13:31

She's suffered with mh issues since she was 13 (her best friends mum died and it really affected her) and struggle in school so much. That's why she's home educated. But if she's not sitting her exams then there's no point in stressing her out with stuff she doesn't want or need. I'm not worried about her doing them because i know she'll be fine (I didn't and Ive done fine) financial abuse isn't a problem Because she has her own savings and money she can't touch until she's 21.

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timothytoeseatenbyaghoul · 05/11/2020 13:33

Turnedouttoes- the men have they're own businesses. Money-death-jobs aren't a problem here.

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