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To ask what you think when you hear a child is home educated

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turquoiseamethyst · 15/03/2015 23:19

I suppose I am trying to gauge a range of opinions.

I am seriously - possibly definitely (definitely maybe?) going to be home schooling my 8 year old for a period of time.

I don't know why I'm worried; perhaps because it's so beyond the norm of what we have experienced before. I don't know anyone who home educates; I wasn't educated at home myself and I think I have known rather a lot of people who are very much of the view that school is all important. I've never particularly subscribed to that view but I've always wanted my children to have a 'normal' upbringing and going to school seems very much a part of that?

Does anyone have any views? As I'm going to possibly be de registering him tomorrow?

OP posts:
derxa · 17/03/2015 23:41

Who is good at pregnancy? I was sick most of the time with both and emotionally all over the place and I wasn't coping with half the stuff you are. Are you saying your parents are both dead? Do you have someone who can give you a break from all this for a couple of hours or lend a listening ear?

turquoiseamethyst · 17/03/2015 23:43

No one.

Absolutely no one. I do have a defeatist attitude because I am defeated.

Come and do the same and see how strong you are.

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BigRedBall · 17/03/2015 23:50

But you're not defeated. You have your DS who can pull you through this. Take him out somewhere tomorrow. Give yourself a break. Go to feed the ducks or to a zoo. Eat cake for breakfast and icecream for lunch. I don't know. You seem like everything is over when it's not. You can help your dc and yourself. You deserve to.

derxa · 17/03/2015 23:52

You are not defeated. You're still fighting day in day out. You have 2 wonderful children and one on the way. You have enough fight in you to argue with posters on here.

fleecyjumper · 18/03/2015 00:01

Hi, I think it is a great idea for you to home educate as long as there are groups like cubs or drama he can go to in order to socialise. You don't have to follow a curriculum and so can learn about what interests your son. You don't have to know everything either because you can learn together. I don't home educate but I am a teacher and some of my best lessons have been based on investigation and discovery. For the basics there are plenty of workbooks available in the shops.
My ds was older than yours, in secondary school, when he stopped attending school due to bullying I later found out. There was no way I could force him to school even though the school wanted to help him. He was a changed child from the day I told him he didn't have to go to school. He was out of school for five weeks (I didn't de-register him) waiting to see if the only school he would agree to go to would accept him (yes it did actually take five weeks for them to agree!) luckily they did because I don't know what I would have done because I am a lone parent with no support and having to work. He was old enough to stay home alone so I suppose he could have done internet school but not ideal.
Anyway, I just wanted to offer you some support and wish you all the best.

LulaMayBrown · 18/03/2015 00:04

Hi Turquoise,

I answered your question early on in the thread and can see this has moved on quite a bit.

All I can say is I think you're incredibly brave and strong to have stood up to your controlling husband and it must feel like the stuffing has been knocked out of you. As someone whose stepparent sounds similar to your husband I salute you for having the bravery to do this (unlike my DM who pretended all was well patched things up and it left all of us a bit barking mad TBH)

Coupled with your DS having anxiety about school and being 'shit at pregnancy' I can't imagine how you are feeling right now.

I absolutely think you are doing the right thing for your family at the moment. None of you need the extra stress. And you must feel like you don't want to look much past tomorrow - which I think is the right thing. I would consider this a lovely long holiday where you can all heal a bit.

Hope all is well.

Verbena37 · 18/03/2015 00:15

My children are forever asking me to home school them but I don't think I would give in unless social and emotional issues got so bad they had to leave.

However, I have one major negative and that's the missing social side of formal school. I feel that children gain so much from the social side of school, that I wont home school unless it be A&E really necessary.

I would honestly think this ugh, if someone said they homeschooled, that's so cool and I'd be a bit envious.

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 18/03/2015 01:38

turquoiseamethyst - this thread has moved on and changed considerably since I first answered your OP.
I'm a bit shocked at the level of vitriol that some posters have chosen to shower you with, and the apparent inability to note that you only intend this as a temporary measure.

I have read all your posts and many of those in between - and I think that you're doing the right thing.
I totally agree that it would be counterproductive at this time to force your DS into school.
I agree with you that he would shut down completely and internalise everything on the grounds that there's no point talking as nobody listens anyway.
I gather from your posts that your DS is not usually an anxiety-laden child, but has become so due to family circumstances - another (hopefully!) short-term situation if handled appropriately.

What I would say to you, and I do feel it is important but then I get the feeling you do too, is that your DS needs outside help, play therapy, child counsellor, whatever. He needs this to help him deal with whatever internal mechanism has set up this situation. If you're keeping him at home, then you will be far more flexible in timings for this, so with luck should be able to find a therapist fairly quickly, although chances are it will be a private one and I suppose in your situation that funds will be tight. :(
However, this needs to be a priority. I can see the point that "giving in" to his outward manifestations of anxiety could set a precedent whereby he learns to "run away" rather than deal with the problem, hence the need for the therapy during the sabbatical from school.

I haven't looked for your other threads but I'm getting the impression that your H was a controlling manipulative EA type. I'm wondering if he's also either the GP, or related to the GP, since you're adamant you'll get no support there (DON'T answer that, of course!)
I wonder if one reason your DS isn't keen to go to school is because of the intrusive questions he might be facing - in a small rural community of course everyone knows everyone else's business, far more than most people would like - and it's likely that at least some children know some of what's happening in his life. It might not even be at bullying level - but sometimes even being asked about how things are can be too much to bear.

I hope that MNHQ move your post out of AIBU into a more appropriate area and that people stop having a go at you when you are obviously in a very difficult and vulnerable situation just now.
Thanks for you and your DC - it will get better in time but make sure that you get the appropriate help Thanks

Milllli · 18/03/2015 02:31

I did it and didn't care what people thought. Best thing I did for them. They are now bright strong minded individuals at Uni.

SuburbanRhonda · 18/03/2015 07:24

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Haven't seen any vitriol on this thread.

What I have is people suggesting that if the DS is back in school, not only does that take some of these pressure off the OP during the day, it helps her DS build resilience and learn how to cope with what is, clearly, a very difficult time for all of them.

I work with school refusers (amongst other things) and I did suggest Education Welfare or the kind out of school tutoring that we have in my LA for children missing school. But what the OP wanted from me was a list of strategies, which I felt bad that was unable to give her because I have to know the family to work out what's best for them.

What I was hoping she'd take from that was that at if she worked with the school and other organisations, they would support her to get her DS back in. Maybe I didn't convey that very well.

Asking for help is not a sign of weakness - quite the opposite- but I'm not sure the OP believes that.

turquoiseamethyst · 18/03/2015 07:32

I didn't want that surburban, particularly but how it read when I asked how you would physically get a child into school was that you didn't know and would turn it back on me (you're not 'engaged')

It has felt vitriolic. It has felt like I've had to justify myself not once but over and over and over again. It's just been a circle of 'send him in / I can't / you must send him in / I can't / when you send him in get a referral to XYX / I can't send him in / if you don't send him in he will suffer from anxiety forever and have mental health problems and they will ALL be your fault / he won't GO in ...' On and on and on and on.

Thumb as I said in my pm thank you for being so incredibly perspective.

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Christinayang1 · 18/03/2015 07:55

Your are doing really well in very difficult circumstances so don't beat yourself up about it

Do you have anything nice planned for today?

Brew
minkGrundy · 18/03/2015 08:07

turquoise have you contacted WA?
They can sometimes offer counselling for children post EA rs. This might help. A friend whose child went said it was mostly through play iirc. Play or art therapy sounds like it might be a good outlet.

My own dc went to place 2 be within school after ea rs breakdown. I don't think they ever talked about it specifically but they knew they could talk if they wanted.

Fairenuff · 18/03/2015 08:09

I'm a little bit confused now because I thought you said you would send him back next week Confused

Anyway, regarding the support in rl, who is going to look after your children when you are having the baby? Would that be someone that you could turn to now as someone in rl to talk to?

Fairenuff · 18/03/2015 08:10

Oh yes, and did you see the link I posted for Theraplay? If not, just google it and you will get lots of ideas.

turquoiseamethyst · 18/03/2015 08:12

Where did I say I wouldn't

Confused
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slw95xx · 18/03/2015 08:23

I think..
"I'm grateful that my mum pulled both me and my sister out of high school and taught us at home because otherwise I'd have probably offed myself in the toilets due to depression" i had a tutor and my mother teaching me from 12-15/16 years old, where I then achieved my GCSE's receiving 3 A's in science, an A in maths, A in english, B in geography and an A in history. Not bad going for someone whos a bit strange.

slw95xx · 18/03/2015 08:24

Oh and my younger sister has just passed her first two GCSE's (She's doing 2 exams every 2 months) with A stars.
I hated school but I love education.

DawnMumsnet · 18/03/2015 09:41

Morning all,

We're going to move this thread over to our Home Ed topic now.

Wishing you and your DS all the best, turquoise Flowers

Iamatotalandutteridiot · 18/03/2015 09:53

What a lovely post slw95xx

I took my DS out for 'being a bit strange' and being totally unhappy in school.

Everyone said I should fight for his right to be provided for, but it just wasn't working and his childhood was passing him by. If you are stressed out of your head at age 4, life isn't looking too good is it?!

Now he's at home, he's doing so much better and - more importantly - he is happy.

Sometimes I worry I am doing the right thing, but reading your post makes me remember why this is the right thing to do :-)

lavendersun · 18/03/2015 10:01

Turquoise, I agree with everything Thumb has said.

You sounded quite upbeat at the beginning of this thread, which is a massive achievement in itself given what you have been though/are going through.

Don't let some random stranger(s) on the internet grind you down. You can do it, whatever you want that it to be. You certainly do not have to justify your choices and actions on here.

I still think that you will make the best decision for your son, whatever it is you choose to do will work, HE or otherwise. You don't need a long term plan right now, you just need to take a day at a time.

If you choose to de-register your son you don't need to start 'school work', this week, next week or the week after that.

In your shoes I would make contact with your local HE community - ours were fantastically lovely and helpful. Here is a link to listings of groups around the country if you haven't already seen it.

www.educationotherwise.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=106&Itemid=86

For whoever it was that said four days is a long time to have off - that is nonsense, DD had four days off with a 'mere' cold last week, four days is nothing.

Flowers Turquoise, you sound really fed up.

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 18/03/2015 10:07

Suburban - ok, perhaps vitriol was a little strong but there has been plenty of quite unpleasant adverse commentary on home-edding and the OP's decision to keep her child out of school as a temp measure.
I'm sure you realise it wasn't aimed at you.

Iamatotalandutteridiot · 18/03/2015 10:11

Turquoise My son hasn't been in school since he was 4.

He got kicked out of 4 nurseries and the 5th (which did work with him) banned him from lunchtimes (it's a long story which ended up with enough tuna pasta for 40 kids all over the floor) and 'broke out' 6 times!!

He lasted in school for 4 weeks. He walked home. Alone. Aged 4.

He has never been in school since.

Taking a little while out to sort out some stuff is simply not a big deal. Don't let anyone tell you it's the end of the world. it's not.

Even if you decide to home ed long term, it will work out just fine.

IAATAUI

Momagain1 · 18/03/2015 10:32

I think a lot of the vitriol is because the AIBU topic doesnt really suit the actual issue. The thread title reads as a very general question on a very divisive topic and it was in the normally argumentative AIBU forum. It needed moving out of AIBU, but I am not sure that it needed moving to Home Ed. it has turned into a much more personal discussion of the fallout from EA, and divorce on small child.

Being relieved from school for a time sounds reasonable. Kids cant multi-task and compartmentalise different aspects of their life. If he is overwhelmed by what has been/is happening at home, concentrating on helping him recover and learn coping skills going forward is more important than the skills at this stage of school. Once he is coping with life better, he can catch up the rest. But forcing him to suck it up somehow and get on with it will probably mean it will come out later, when his little boy coping skills fail to do the job anymore. Missing a bit of the early years will be more reoverable than if everything comes to a head a decade from now.

Momagain1 · 18/03/2015 10:33

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