I want to eat vegan fish & chips on the beach

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Any U.K. recommendations? Thanks.

And meat eaters eat minced up animal lips, ears and arseholes encased in animal intestines, but they call them hot dogs !!

All the ones in Aldborough in Suffolk do.

No one is claiming it’s healthy.

I’m vegetarian not vegan and try to avoid over processed food like vegetarian burgers and the like but some times I like to eat some crap, and who doesn’t fancy fish and chips at the seaside.

Like @13SixWeetabix I took was curious to what vegan "fish" was.

But any battered product is unlikely to be 100% vegan as most flour apparently contains insect fragments.

Some of the vegan foods suggested won't be vegan. Beans on toast won't be vegan if you use butter. Custard (doughnuts) should be made with eggs and dairy milk or cream.

I can't understand why people get so upset by vegans? Paedophiles, people who abuse animals, wife beaters...sure! I'd get upset by them but vegans?
Vegans are compassionate people who don't want to to be responsible for the suffering of animals, that's it.
Get a fucking grip people. Keep your anger for people who genuinely deserve it.

What do you think vegans eat?

The difference between a vegan and normal diet is mainly what we leave out, not what we put in. Very few of us live on meat/fish substitutes - there is no need.

I had some hemp protein powder in fruit juice, followed by oats and banana with soya milk and fruit juice for breakfast (Please note that I exercise regularly, and that most protein powder is consumed by non-vegans) For dinner (I'm in the North!) I've just made something with Cannelini beans, peas, tomatoes, spinach, and ginger, having this with some tofu with shredded ginger and chilli, and thick toast with nice olive oil. Took about ten minutes to make, and it was lovely 🙂 Nothing lab-grown or unhealthy there.

What did you eat?

Or possibly, like me they have lived entire lives without eating meat or fish and are frustrated at the pitifully poor meat free choice on most menus being replaced with processed fake meat, produced by companies seemingly spending more money on marketing than quality.

I don’t want to eat meat or fish, if I did I’d eat meat and fish.

WRT “Where can I get vegan fish and chips”, there is no common consensus on fake fish - I’ve seen tofu, halloumi, banana blossoms, quorn and heavily processed fake fish fillets all offered up as vegan/veggie fish. Quite often they are cooked in the same vat as fish and sausages.
The question can equally mean “where can I get a traditional style vegan chip option”. Hardly surprising if people are not clear on the meaning.

I go for places which keep clearly separate vats for cooking vegan/veggie products and get the chips, the picked onions and if there a a decent non fake meat veggie option that is a bonus. Regrettably the fake meat burgers seem to have taken over so its usually just chips.

Lots of people use dairy free spread without actually picking it for its dairy free quality. The butter used in beans on toast is a tiny part of it. The custard donuts should be made with dairy and egg, but aren’t.
But the point to all these vegan foods is to point out that to say ‘I’ve never eaten vegan food’ is nonsense. So much of your every day food is vegan.

Where did anyone say they hate vegans ? That's a massive reach.

The point is simple,
Call it what it is , Battered Banana Blossom....It isnt fish, it will never be fish vegan or otherwise. I'm surprised that any self respecting vegan would want to associate vegan food with flesh alternatives.

@butterfly0404 It might be a simple point but plenty of actual vegans on this thread totally disagree with you.

"It isn't fish, it will never be fish vegan or otherwise. I'm surprised that any self respecting vegan would want to associate vegan food with flesh alternatives."

It's been explained over and over again on the thread that so many food products have names that are not simplistic descriptions of the ingredients. It's not a requirement of food labelling to have to be totally literal when naming food items. Vegans are not irrationally afraid or upset at the use of words that usually relate to meat, plenty of vegans (and vegetarians and meat eaters!) on this thread understood what the OP meant and what she was asking about.

The comments about vegan hate come from the large number of stupid posts from non-vegans making the usual inane comments about things that have nothing to do with them and their diet. What's the motivation for those posts? Ignorance, dumb attempts at "humour", or just using the OP as an opportunity to get their kicks online. All deeply sad, if not veering into hate.

The OP was just asking for advice on a UK based short break, as a break from being a full time carer. She wasn't asking for a discussion about veganism!

Hotdogs - not dog
Hamburgers - not ham
Toad in the hole - not toad
Cullen skink - not lizard
Beef olives - not olives
Spotted dick - dear god I hope not

So why the problem with vegan fish not being fish?

I agree, those examples are misleading, never understood why something was called a hamburger when it is porkless - Must be very confusing for some neurodivergent folks, me Included.

I know Cullen Skink is a type of soup but what is its link to Lizards ? Genuinely confused...

Using terms like 'vegan fish' for food gives people an idea of what it is like.

A significant proportion of people really do dislike vegans, and you can't deny that many comments on this post are antagonistic.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/future/article/20200203-the-hidden-biases-that-drive-anti-vegan-hatred

A hamburger is called that because it originated in Hamburg, Germany.

A "skink" is a type of lizard, as well as a type of soup.

The internet is really useful for looking up the etymology of words.

Words that are spelt the same can come from various different languages and origins, and therefore have different meanings in different contexts.

But my point remains, Banana Blossom isn't fish, it's Banana Blossom.
I don't get the outrage towards folk that are saying this either.

'...our food' is tricky. Because if we care about the environment, everyone should eat less meat. They've done studies and when a menu says (example), 'vegan fish' rather than 'battered tofu' about half as many people eat it. Labelling something 'vegan' reduces consumption a lot. You can imagine a baked potato place with a baked beans potato; label it 'vegan' almost none of the people who previous ate it will. A few vegans might seek it out but they probably already would.

Call things whatever you like but there is an issue with labeling.

@butterfly0404 your point doesn't remain. We all know that many food items have names which aren't literal descriptions of the ingredients. It's been described many times on this thread. No one thinks that Toad in the Hole is an actual toad, and so on. Once you understand that the names of food items are not literal descriptions, then you can easily understand that Vegan Fish and Chips is not going to be fish. It's very clearly going to be something vegan that's been battered and deep fried.

The "outrage" is due to many people posting who know this full well and are just being dicks about it because they can.

I agree that when a place sells ‘battered banana blossom and chips’ it isn’t selling fish and chips.
However, when you have vegi or vegan ‘fish’ and chips you want something battered in the place of the fish.
The op asked for vegan fish and chips. Most people are sensible enough to know what she meant. If she had said chips with a vegan fish alternative then I would like to think there would have been different answers. (But I suspect the people who can’t cope with the concept of vegan food would still be here with their useful comments like ‘yuk’.)

French fries are fried potatoes prepared in what some people consider to be aFrench way. I don’t know how that fits into a misleading name for a food, tbh.

Must admit to being baffled at hot dogs when a child ( cf. Korea)

Vegan 'Leather' - another abomination. It's not leather, it's plastic, leather is cow hide...plastic doesn't sound so marketable though.

Most people are sensible enough to know what she meant

Really? I didn’t, there is no standard “vegan” fish and chips. I would actively avoid fake fish, I would be interested in eg battered tofu and chips with a clear label to confirm the vegan/veggie options are cooked in separate vats from the fish and meat options.

@MrsTerryPratchett is correct - well labelled food sells better, especially in this area where the plethora of fake meat/fish products has no common descriptor and actively deters lifelong vegan/veggies (of which I’m one) as well as meat eaters who actively avoid anything labelled “vegan”.

"But any battered product is unlikely to be 100% vegan as most flour apparently contains insect fragments."
I swallowed a small fly that had nosedived into my iced coffee this morning... 34 years of vegetarianism and veganism down the drain😬
(For the permanently picky...the coffee was made with soya milk)

I've never been to a fish and chip shop that sells vegan 'fish'... that doesn't say what it is. And being veggie/vegan for most of my life, I'm pretty capable of asking what the chips are cooked in.
Also... not everyone is you, and not everyone is me... for example, I am a pretty unhealthy vegan, who doesn't give a toot about fake meats or buying food labelled vegan.

You might as well have worn a sign saying "kick me", OP. Good luck in your quest, and please share the location if you find some!

I've never been to a fish and chip shop that sells vegan 'fish'... that doesn't say what it is

That was, pretty much my point. Its a meaningless label so unsurprisingly generates questions.