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Would you travel to the USA?

186 replies

Ineedcoffeenow · 23/06/2025 18:37

Setting aside disagreement with Trump’s politics, would you travel to the USA this week (specifically NYC and Washington DC)? My concern lies with the risk of terrorism.

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Whitehorses67 · 24/06/2025 06:53

Amy73838 · 23/06/2025 18:53

Would you only travel to the US when there’s a Democrat president?

That’s elite level craziness!

It isn’t about democrat or republican.
Trump is a category all of his own, a wannabe dictator whose conduct is making the possibility of civil war is increasingly real.
Also the issue of perfectly innocent people being detained if your face doesn’t fit.
Then we add in terrorism.
There are real risks associated with travel to the US these days without even considering moral or political objections.

AspiringChatBot · 24/06/2025 08:12

MrsTerryPratchett · 23/06/2025 20:55

This is nothing new. A quick google says that there have only been 17 years out of 250-odd that America hasn’t been in some kind of conflict or other.

They are addicted to war. Can’t help themselves.

Suspect that this must be satire, but because it may not be completely universally understood as such by people outside of both countries:

>> For how many years over the last 250 years ending 31 Dec 2024 has the UK been in conflict with another country? For how many years during this period has the UK NOT been in conflict with another country? And please give me the same information for the USA.

ChatGPT said:
Here’s an analysis of the past 250 years (1775–2024) for both the UK and the USA regarding years at war vs. at peace:

🇬🇧 United Kingdom
According to one breakdown, Britain was engaged in warfare across 86 of the 100 years of the 18th century, 87 of the 100 years of the 19th century, 74 of the 100 years of the 20th century, and has been in conflict through all 25 years so far of the 21st century reddit.com.
That totals 272 years of conflict in a 300-year span, or ~90.7%.
Scaling that to our 250-year window suggests:
≈ 227 years in conflict
≈ 23 years at peace
So over the last 250 years, the UK has been at war for approximately 227 years, and at peace for around 23 years.

🇺🇸 United States
A similar user calculation finds the U.S. has been at war for 206 of its 246 years—about 84% overallevanstruth.com.
That implies in a 250‑year span:
≈ 210 years in conflict
≈ 40 years at peace
Thus, the U.S. has roughly 210 years of warfare and around 40 years of peace from 1775 to 2024.

📊 Summary Table
CountryYears in ConflictYears at Peace
UK
~227
~23
USA
~210
~40

📝 Notes and Caveats
These figures count any military conflict—not only declared wars—including colonial campaigns, interventions, and peacekeeping operations.
They’re estimates based on historical compilations and user-compiled data and should be taken as rough rather than exact.
Definitions of “at war” can vary: whether one includes minor conflicts, colonial skirmishes, insurgencies, etc., affects the totals .

In summary:
UK: ~227 years at war, ~23 years at peace.
USA: ~210 years at war, ~40 years at peace

AvidJadeShaker · 24/06/2025 08:27

I would go.
I traveled to America last month, am going again in September and next March.

AspiringChatBot · 24/06/2025 08:31

OP, I'm sorry - posters (including me) have been doing their dingers with this thread, not very helpfully to you.

If it helps any - I'm in the USA and I am course apprehensive about what is happening here and throughout the world. I've been worried about air safety here since January and I have scoped out how to get out of the country to fly, but I don't see a reason to do so yet and I think that Trump's break with Musk probably puts this on the back burner. The unacceptable questioning of people arriving in the USA is worrying but it's also not new and as far as I am aware has not changed in the past few weeks. If you have some connection to the Middle East or to activist groups it's worth checking that you would be as safe today as you thought you would be two weeks ago.

I'd watch the travel advisories for your country or countries or citizenship AND your departure point - if those are all the UK, it's here - but for the moment I don't think much has changed in the past two weeks.

I did see that the USA issued a worldwide caution to its citizens, and I would take that seriously as these are generally pretty accurate and any targeting of US citizens could involve you if you fly to, from, or within the USA.

TizerorFizz · 24/06/2025 08:47

@Whitehorses67 To borrow from another person , objectively, what risks?! Yes some people could have immigration concerns but most of us face no issues at all. It’s ok for most people. Scaremongering is a bit ott.

MischiefandMayhemManaged · 24/06/2025 08:50

Given Trumps propensity for deporting harmless holliday makers from different countries at a seeming whim, not to mention the potential risk from recent threats?

We aren't even sending people over to work there at the moment - and leaving it to the 2 trained engineers who are already in country..... they are run of their feet, but given that we are quite an international bunch, it was decided too high risk.

Personally I would steer well clear for now.

Holluschickie · 24/06/2025 08:54

TizerorFizz · 24/06/2025 08:47

@Whitehorses67 To borrow from another person , objectively, what risks?! Yes some people could have immigration concerns but most of us face no issues at all. It’s ok for most people. Scaremongering is a bit ott.

I have a sibling in the US, which is the only reason I visit. Last time Trump got elected, there was a huge upsurge of racist incidents against PoC. She was told to go back to Mexico ( we are not Mexican), threatened while driving, asked if she was illegal and so on. Scarier when guns involved. Worse now with anti-foreigner sentiment running high.

I have no doubt the vast majority of Americans are friendly, but the few armed crazies make it not worth my while to visit.

MrsSkylerWhite · 24/06/2025 08:55

ramonaquimby · 23/06/2025 19:00

Why? Lots of people giving the USA a swerve whilst Trump is in charge

This.

mondaytosunday · 24/06/2025 09:01

Sure. I have friends who live just outside DC and work in it.

tripleginandtonic · 24/06/2025 09:02

Amy73838 · 23/06/2025 18:48

People on here clearly have a poor grasp of statistics and probabilities.

You are way more likely to die in plane crash on the way there than by a terrorist attack once you arrive.

A plane crash is unlikely too.

thelittlestkiwi · 24/06/2025 09:13

I have friends visiting later this year. They said they had to supply their social media names and details when they applied for their visa.

I will not go while trump is in charge - firstly as I do not want to support the US economy. Secondly because I am concerned about being detained by immigration. Reading a few first hand accounts, those in charge of people detained are a private company, who give few fucks once they are making a profit off holding people.

BitOutOfPractice · 24/06/2025 10:12

I’m going to visit friends next month. In rural New England. I’m not too worried tbh.

BitOutOfPractice · 24/06/2025 10:13

thelittlestkiwi · 24/06/2025 09:13

I have friends visiting later this year. They said they had to supply their social media names and details when they applied for their visa.

I will not go while trump is in charge - firstly as I do not want to support the US economy. Secondly because I am concerned about being detained by immigration. Reading a few first hand accounts, those in charge of people detained are a private company, who give few fucks once they are making a profit off holding people.

You’ve had to provide that social media information for years. That’s not a new thing.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 24/06/2025 10:23

Do correct me if I'm wrong but I think the social media question on the ESTA form is optional.

TizerorFizz · 24/06/2025 10:26

@thelittlestkiwi Why would you be detained with an Esta? What are you scared of? Normal law abiding people are fine.

Parker231 · 24/06/2025 10:31

BitOutOfPractice · 24/06/2025 10:13

You’ve had to provide that social media information for years. That’s not a new thing.

Declaring social media is on a voluntary basis

OhMehGoddess · 24/06/2025 10:33

I would go where I want to go for holiday. There are obviously places you won’t , but to the US definitely.

AzurePanda · 24/06/2025 10:36

@Whitehorses67 do you share similar concerns about visiting countries such as Turkey, Hungary etc etc?

AttilaTheMeerkat · 24/06/2025 10:37

Last time I was in the US a couple of months ago my family were asked purpose of visit, how long we were staying and how much cash we had on us. The whole process took around 5 minutes.

The only information re mobiles was to not to use them whilst you were waiting in line.

Anzena · 24/06/2025 10:37

If I absolutely had to go to the US during the remainder of Trump's presidency I would travel via Dublin or Shannon. There is pre clearance there so if there are any hassles at immigration at least I would still be in Europe if denied entry!

But I have no intentions of going there for the foreseeable anyway.

TizerorFizz · 24/06/2025 10:40

@Anzena What immigration hassles? Hearsay or knowledge. We just had the quickest entry ever. Why do people with an Esta think they will have issues? Also I live 30 mins from Heathrow. Certainly no advantage in going to Dublin. I’m squeaky clean and it’s easy to get into the USA. If you are Iranian, think again.

MrsKeats · 24/06/2025 10:43

Not if it was free.

Eyesopenwideawake · 24/06/2025 10:47

Amy73838 · 23/06/2025 19:06

They’re really not. In the same way that I doubt many people cancel their visit to the UK while Labour are in government.

They really are. I have family in Cal. but they understand that I'm not going there while Trump's goons can pour over my SM before deciding whether I can proceed to Go and collect $200. There's plenty of other countries we can meet up in.

MrsKeats · 24/06/2025 10:47

Nothing to do with threats (perceived or not) I am not spending money in that dreadful place. I am not willing to have my phone checked by security either. Some people on here are so ill informed. I am not supporting a country that would rather let women die than let them have an abortion.
I am not spending money in a country that think it’s ok to terrorise ‘illegals’.

MrsKeats · 24/06/2025 10:48

TizerorFizz · 24/06/2025 10:40

@Anzena What immigration hassles? Hearsay or knowledge. We just had the quickest entry ever. Why do people with an Esta think they will have issues? Also I live 30 mins from Heathrow. Certainly no advantage in going to Dublin. I’m squeaky clean and it’s easy to get into the USA. If you are Iranian, think again.

i am assuming this is satire.

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