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Pomegranatepompom · 10/05/2020 14:42

@DBML
@puzzledandoissedoff

And anyone else 😊

Wondered if you’d like to continue the Florida discussion?

I’ve not cancelled August yet, I know it’s only a slim chance of going.

Btw I made some pooh bear toast, it was pretty similar and easy to do.

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derenstar · 11/05/2020 12:51

@DBML - to be fair, last year's trip was a bit of a blowout as it was my 40th so we stayed at the Poly which was an absolute dream but it's not our usual. The price also included a few days onsite at Universal. It is an expensive addiction but I don't have any other vices and we are thankfully able to afford it.

I've always wanted to go at Christmas to but it sounds like it's a bit unpleasant which is such a real shame. I'm sorry you didn't have a good time when you went. It's a lot of money to pay to be disappointed. I think late August is a good balance crowd wise but the downside is you're more likely to be caught in a tropical storm or hurricane! Mind you, being onsite during a tropical storm or hurricane is probably as safe as you can get!

@Pomegranatepompom - re: DVC - I assume you know broadly how it works? If not www.themeparktourist.com/features/20170208/32480/dvc-buying-guide-disney-doesnt-want-you-know this is a really good overview (it's little bit old but still fairly accurate). I've been looking into DVC for a few years now and I'm still learning but my overall impression (and this is just my opinion) is that DVC COULD be cost effective IF you go often enough to make it work AND you like to stay in deluxe accommodation (especially in the bigger units like a 1 or 2 bed villa). If you don't mind staying offsite or in the moderate and value resorts then it doesn't make as much sense.

DVC basically allows you to lock in a fixed price for deluxe accommodation at today's prices over the life of the contract , most of which are 20+ years. You exchange your points against stays at any of the legacy DVC resorts (but not any of the new ones like Riviera) at WDW and at their non-theme park properties. You can also sell the contract before it ends and most people seem to make a bit of money when they sell as the value of the points tends to increases over time.

There are arguments for and against buying the points either directly from Disney (you'd get some perks such as money off annual passes and restaurant and merch discounts but you pay a lot more per point) or buying a re-sale contract where you forgo most of the perks but you save substantially on the price per point. For us, I don't think the direct buy perks are worth enough to justify the extra costs so I'm looking primarily at resale. Some people do a mix and match and purchase some of their points re-sale and some from Disney to get around this, so thats also an option.

I am currently looking at a 240 point resale contracts for sale at $99 per point at Saratoga Springs Resort (which we wouldn't mind being our home resort) and doing some fag packet calculations. This works out at $23,760 plus closing costs of $755 - total $24,515 - just under £20k at today's exchange rate for the initial investment. Annual dues would be on top at $6.77 per point so $1,624/£1,314per annum. If we continue to go every other year as we do now, we could bank our points so we had 480 to spend every two years. We'd need around 305 points for a 10 night stay in a 1 bed villa at Saratoga. Currently, to rent a 1 bed at SSR for 10 nights would cost $6k or about £4800 for a stay during the last wek of August. Therefore we only have to do this type of stay 4 times before we break even - in roughly in 8 years for us (without taking annual dues into account). If we only use 305 points every other year, we would have 175 points left over which we can rent out (the going rate seems to be $14-$15 per point), giving us about £1900 back to put towards the annual dues. This means that after 4 trips, we'd potentially be looking at paying next to nothing for our accommodation each trip. Granted dues will increase every year (average seems to be 2-3%) but the time value of money means everything else would increase so it starts to make sense.

I hope this all makes sense but like I said, this is just based on my view and our set of circumstances which may be very different from yours.

derenstar · 11/05/2020 12:53

@DBML - have a look here for the res-ale contracts - www.resalesdvc.com/dvc-resale-listings/saratoga-springs-listing-3ss81/. They really don't have be as expensive as that :

Pomegranatepompom · 12/05/2020 08:08

Thanks so much - I’ll try and have a look later. I’m not working today but trying to persuade DD6 to do her school work which is always .... interesting ...

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Pomegranatepompom · 12/05/2020 14:52

Can’t face much more cajoling today!

Worst restaurant: Hollywood and Vine
Worst snack: Turkey leg - although I’ve not had it, it wouldn’t cross my mind !!!
Worst ride: it’s a small world (sorry) or space mountain
Worst queue theming: Soarin’
Worst thing about Disney: Crowds/expense and that it’s an 8 hour flight away

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ChippyMinton · 12/05/2020 19:06

Worst restaurant: Caseys Corner
Worst snack: turkey leg
Worst ride: Tommorowland Speedway - the fumes!
Worst queue theming: Soarin’ - agree - what theming?!
Worst thing about Disney: the weather - too hot too cold too wet too humid too sunny too stormy. At least the weather apps are accurate so you can be prepared, usually.

Pomegranatepompom · 12/05/2020 19:08

yes forgotten the speedway - that’s my least favourite!

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Curlybrunette · 13/05/2020 20:12

Hey,

We drunk booked Orlando last weekend, for next Feb half term and I'm flipping between thinking it'll all be fine and not a chance will we be able to go!

I went to Disney when I was really young, and we went to Orlando nearly 4 years ago. We stayed on I Drive and did Universal, SeaWorld, Busch Gardens, Gatorland, and Wet and Wild.

This time we've booked a 2 bedroom suite in Kissimmee. Our boys will be 13 & 15 by then and we just can't all fit in 1 hotel room any more! Plus I thought it would be more convenient/save money to have a kitchen.

Our plan is to just do the Disney Parks this time.

I'm keeping an eye out for free Disney dining (reading lots of differing opinions on whether they'll do it next year). If it's on I'm going to see if I can amend my booking and maybe do a few nights at a Disney.

Do you guys know if there is a minimum nights stay needed for free dining, and are there specific properties it applies to?

Again going back to the 1 room thing if we do stay at Disney I don't want to pay the $$$$$$$$ it costs for a 2 bed suite, but did think about getting 2 rooms at one of the cheaper places (All Star Music, Sports, Movies).

Overall I am MEGA exciting about going and am loving hearing about your trips :-)

HermioneWeasley · 13/05/2020 20:21

Favourite Disney park: Epcot
Favourite Disney resort: Never stayed at one 😢
Favourite Disney restaurant: liberty tree tavern
Favourite Disney quick-serve: Mexico counter service
Favourite Disney snack: Draw between Dole Whip and Mickey pretzels
Favourite Disney ride at MK: Thunder mountain
Favourite Disney ride at Epcot: Soarin’
Favourite Disney ride at Animal Kingdom: Flight of Passage
Favourite Disney ride at Hollywood Studios: Toystory midway mania
Favourite Disney water park attraction: Don’t have one
Favourite Disney queue: Flights of passage
Favourite Disney show: Fantasmic
Favourite Disney meet and greet: None

HermioneWeasley · 13/05/2020 20:28

We looked at DVC but we usually book a villa as we like the space and have a teenage son who really needs his own room. The points you need for 2 bed facilities was just insane so we didn’t go ahead (our budget was £30k a few years ago)

absolutelyknackeredcow · 13/05/2020 20:37

@Curlybrunette have you been in Feb before? Was wondering what the weather is like?

Curlybrunette · 13/05/2020 20:42

No it was October the last time I went. From what people on TA say Feb is ok, maybe a bit chilly in the early morning and on an evening but good during the day. Someone said by the end of Feb this year it was 28 degrees, so pretty variable.

Namechange8123 · 13/05/2020 20:46

We booked in January for October. Animal Kingdom Lodge with a Savanna view, dining plan etc. Full amount has to be paid by July and then if it's cancelled we'll have to try and move it to another date. Just trying to be hopeful it goes ahead Sad

Wtfdidwedo · 13/05/2020 22:03

@Curlybrunette it's normally 4 nights minimum I believe.

Curlybrunette · 13/05/2020 22:27

Thanks Wtfdidwedo

IllustriousToad · 13/05/2020 22:35

@Curlybrunette we went to Florida this year in late October. Some sunny days - mostly low 20s. It got freezing in the evening though!

Are you doing to take your boys to universal? In my personal opinion I think it's better for teens - but maybe that's just because we have never been huge fans of Disney!

derenstar · 14/05/2020 11:22

@Curlybrunette - it’s normally a 5 night minimum stay for the UK free dining offer. We are all still waiting to see if Disney offer it to UK guest for next year. Keep an eye on the Dibb forums for up to date news

Curlybrunette · 14/05/2020 11:53

IllustriousToad I must admit we never planned to do Disney, with having teenage boys but I've heard the Star Wars and Avatar rides are really good.
I'm a bit worried the boys won't love it, and we did really love Universal last time but we feel like we've done that now.

Disney tickets are also way more expensive than Disney too.

A big thing was the accommodation and the suite we've booked in Kissimmee looks lovely, it was harder to get a 2 bedroomed place on I Drive.

I've just noticed on Florida tix a package for Discovery Cove, Aquatica, Busch Gardens and SeaWorld. £131 each (that's with swimming with dolphins). I'm now thinking maybe not doing Disney and getting this. There are lots of big rides at SeaWorld and Busch Gardens...

HermioneWeasley · 14/05/2020 13:00

I’m not sure how old your teenagers are, but DS was 14 last time we went and still loves Disney- the mountains in magic kingdom along with pirates, Haunted mansion and cheerfully goes long with all th classics (except voyage of the little mermaid - he sits that one out)

Epcot is brilliant for older kids (again apart from Frozen) as are animal kingdom and studios has all the new Star Wars stuff (which wasn’t open). It’s a myth it’s all princesses

ChippyMinton · 14/05/2020 13:55

We went in February and the weather was spring-like most of the time. Very little rain ( August is shockingly stormy). Bear in mind the shorter days, as it cools considerably at sunset. We’d wear shorts and tshirts in the day, return to resort for a rest late afternoon, then put on jeans and hoody to go back out for dinner and stay in parks until closing.

Pomegranatepompom · 26/05/2020 08:31

Hello- people with plans this year - have you moved to next year yet or still holding some hope?

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TellerTuesday4EVA · 26/05/2020 08:37

We're booked for last week October through first week November.

I'm holding out hope for now. Waiting to see what the parks are like on opening & will watch until nearer our departure date. I don't want to go if there's a capacity limit, compulsory mask wearing etc. It's a hell of a lot of money to not get the full experience.

If we have to I will change to April/May but have Halloween Disney tickets so would be nice to make it for our original dates 🤞

Pomegranatepompom · 26/05/2020 12:46

@TellerTuesday4EVA We are booked for August but thinking of moving to October, but I don't want to move it then need to move it again. We are flying with BA, I think we can move dates without losing deposit.

The halloween party is great !

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EmotionalFlood · 26/05/2020 13:15

I've found my people!! We were booked for Disney's AKL with dining again this September but we're postponing to next year (sadly!). I don't know if I can wait another year :(

Favourite Disney park: Animal Kingdom
Favourite Disney resort: Port Orleans - FQ
Favourite Disney restaurant: Yak & Yeti or Le Cellier
Favourite Disney quick-serve: Flame Tree BBQ
Favourite Disney snack: Night Blossom or Pulled pork fries!
Favourite Disney ride at MK: SDMT (at night), Splash Mountain (DPs favourite)

Favourite Disney ride at Epcot: They're all a bit rubbish... Sorin...
Favourite Disney ride at Animal Kingdom: Flight of Passage/Everest
Favourite Disney ride at Hollywood Studios: Slinky Dog Dash or Toy Story Mania
Favourite Disney water park attraction: Does the lazy river count?
Favourite Disney queue: Everest
Favourite Disney show: Couldn't pick
Favourite Character meet: Chip and Dale (although meeting Ariel was fabulous last year!)

Worst restaurant: CRT - it's nice but rushed and the service isn't great!
Worst snack: Rice Crispy Snacks...
Worst ride: Small World or Tiki Room (They last forever)
Worst queue theming: Small World
Worst thing about Disney: Coming home!

Pomegranatepompom · 26/05/2020 23:16

Apparently Disney are releasing a statement about reopening tomorrow .. 🤞

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derenstar · 27/05/2020 11:11

They are indeed! It would be interesting to see if they apply the same modifications as Shanghai or align more with a Universal’s strategy. Would those of you that are booked to go this year still go - assuming travel restrictions are lifted? I’m not sure I’d be able to cope with wearing a mask in that heat and for any significant length of time and the experience just won’t be the same.