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Bedgebury is holding a Christmas 'Lapland UK' Experience

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TheDuchessOfNorksBride · 28/08/2007 22:05

... covering a part of the forest with fake snow, Christmas village, Raymond Briggs 'The Snowman' ride, Father Christmas visit, mulled wine to fortify parents, reindeer, husky dogs, trumpeters and all sorts. I'm soooo excited. Er, for my children, obviously...

It's quite expensive though (I just paid £167 for a family of 5). Here is the link. And here is the itinery.

And it's selling out quite quickly.

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FioFio · 17/12/2007 12:52

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Bumblelion · 17/12/2007 13:05

Not read all the posts, will go back and read but we DIDN'T enjoy it at all.

We have been to Lapland twice (once 10 years ago and last year) and I thought it would be a fun, if slightly different, experience.

It just didn't compare to the real Lapland (not that I was expecting it too) but it was very unorganised.

Our children were 10 (son), 10 (son's friend) and 6 (daughter).

We got there and the man told us to wait inside the dome. Went into the dome, nothing much happening so walked through into 'Lapland'. Met two elves who asked us if we were waiting for the toy shop and told them we hadn't even had our flight yet. Went back into the dome (still empty) and the children had great fun stacking up the plastic chairs. We were due to fly at 3 pm, about 3:10 still on our own so went back outside the dome (into the England side) and there was a queue a mile long. We did get some very strange looks.

The flight was crap, no flight as such (not that we were expecting one) but to call it a flight when all you see is the Snowman video with music playing is a bit of a farce.

I found the whole experience very cramped, it should have been more spaced out - a bit of a walk through the forest to see the huskies (only 2 in a metal cage!) would have been good, and the reindeer were in a fenced-off area.

Obviously in Lapland (and I know it is a whole different experience), you can touch the reindeer when you go on the reindeer ride.

I thought it was going to be real snow (like you get at Diggerland) not this tissue paper stuff.

Father Christmas was a farce (there were about 6 of them in log cabins) and while we were waiting to see our Father Christmas we could hear the other Father Christmas speaking to another family.

All in all, a complete waste of time, very disappointed and definitely will not be going again.

Those of you who are still to go I hope you have a better, more organised time than we did.

Oh well, live and learn.

To spend £192 on this trip was not, in my opinion, worth the money.

I suppose they did try and it was a bit of an 'experience' but not one that I would wish to repeat.

ruty · 17/12/2007 13:38

they only seemed to have one Father Christmas when we were there, perhaps that's why there was such a delay!
In Europa Park they also had a lovely traditional Christmas market with proper Gluhwein - dh remarked at Lapland UK that the mulled wine was very watery...and only a couple of hot dog stalls essentially.

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ruty · 17/12/2007 13:44

oh no it wasn't free! I think it was a couple of quid or more. Compared to a euro in Germany...

ShinyHappyStarOfBethlehem · 17/12/2007 13:45

Fio, was it not written on your wrist band? The adults has "mulled wine" on theirs (the staff marked it off as your collected your wine), the DC had "toy factory/gingerbread house/Father Christmas" on theirs and DS1 (older sibling wristband) had "toy factory/ginger bread house" on his.. all marked off as each thing was participated in/received.

I had thought there were two Father Christmases but only because when we were waiting in the porch section, we could hear another family in the a porch section on the other side.. we were not made aware of any other Father Christmases/cabins and heard nothing of any kind that indicated their presence. I actually thought the way Lapland UK was designed (with stategically placed Christmas trees etc) everywhere to shield one section from another was rather clever.

Whoever below mentioned tents with plastic furniture, I had pictured actual tents but in fact they are all proper teepees and no plactic furniture in sight.. all wooden and mostly, as someone else mentioned with fur/reindeer skins (which DS1 violently objecyed to! ) on them.

FioFio · 17/12/2007 13:55

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ShinyHappyStarOfBethlehem · 17/12/2007 13:55

They told us as we checked in when they handed the wrist bands out.

ruty · 17/12/2007 13:59

oh was it? I don't remember that!

ruty · 17/12/2007 14:04

probably because i wasn't drinking it. It was apparently watery though.

ShinyHappyStarOfBethlehem · 17/12/2007 14:13

Ours wasn't - it was lovely. Very rich and fruity. It sounds as if we were very lucky with how things were for us all things considered.

I wanted to buy more mulled wine but we were too tight/broke

The hot chocolate was totally jummy. Really rich and velvety.

ShinyHappyStarOfBethlehem · 17/12/2007 14:14

That would be yummy of course!

nicola9 · 20/12/2007 00:05

Sorry bit of an essay!

We went to Lapland UK on Sunday for the 5.30 'flight'. The walk to the transporter wasn't too bad and it was nice in the dark (all lit up) - quite enchanting. We arrived at the transporter early and they told us to join the 5pm flight. We knew what to expect with the flight thanks to this thread so told DD (3 1/2) it was magic rather than a flight. Despite critics on this thread my DD LOVED the flight!!! No snow, though, like others have mentioned.

Arriving in the square, which looked fantastic in the dark lit up, we were immediately directed to queue for the toy factory. While waiting we had a quick look around and I must admit it looked great... yes if you try to touch the snow on the trees it's a little rubbery and the snow that falls in the square looks amazing when it is falling. Closer scrutiny would reveal that they weren't flakes but some kind of foam. I think it would have to be one hell of a snow machine to create flakes . PS evenings are definitely the best time to go - it just added to the atmosphere. Older kids might see through some things in daytime.

The toy factory was alright, others before me have described the activity well. Personally I think they could have easily filled it with more toys to make it look breathtaking. It was good how they got the children to tell the elves at the end whether the puzzles were broken, complete or parts missing. It added to the 'helping the elves in the toy factory' charade . A touch Pontins at times - could have been a bit more polished.

When we left we were told what time to go to the gingerbread house. We had a bit of a wander in the paths and I agree I think it is quite cleverly laid out. Very traditional and personally glad to see no rides etc. The huskies were great and not in cages.

The reindeer were in their pen, in the shelter, but still visible. I think the reason you can't stroke them may be due to the blue-tongue issue in the South East. Personally, I was surprised they managed to get reindeer, the ones that usually come to our town each year were cancelled because of it.

Gingerbread was great and Mother Christmas was very authentic and lovely. Really warm and friendly just as you would expect of Father Christmas' wife! Nice touch that the children got to wear mini chefs hats and aprons. She told us to not let FC know we had gingerbread when we saw him. After told what time to meet fo FC.

Post Office I thought was great you don't have to buy stamps to take part although if you do your postcard/letter will be sent. The elf behind the counter was brilliant and to time explain everything she was doing.

We felt that we had just enough time to do everything and have a look around before our time to wait to be taken to FC.

To be honest we waited to be taken through the woods, to then queue to get in the tent, to then wait for your name to be called for FC. We did have a LONG wait (probably 45mins), but DD was fully entertained by the Snowman, elves and colouring and we were probably last in our group.

What spoilt it the most were other parents! What I found most dispicable was the way parents were loudly moaning and groaning to the elves clearly in front of not only their own children but other peoples. Many times I had to move DD so another parent did ruin the magic. If you had any chance of your child stopping believing it would be due to the parents! One parent opened the doors to the gingerbread house during our session to insist on someone senior coming outside because their child had a nut allergy and were worried about the gingerbread and now just wanted to go straight to FC. Another, while waiting for FC, shouted her concerns about Health & Safety... an elf was juggling and doing his best to entertain the kids . She made him stop! The kid were loving what he was doing BTW!

FC was amazing - there were 2 (I thought) but it wasn't obvious. My DD is extremely shy and he did well and she barely said 2 words to him. Her eye widened when her mentioned about our old campervan and her special teddy 'silky'. Gifts I thought were good quality, he got her to get out the puzzle and see what it was and tell what animal. Couldn't have asked for a better FC, he held her hands to warm them up and told that he got her letter she left the night before (part of our ruse ). He even asked about the gingerbread and where it was! I think he was after some - great continuity! My DH said it felt like he had an audience with the Pope - he's normally a right cynic!

After finished we went to shop - no more expensive than any other attraction.

Overall, the day was brilliant, there is room for improvement but it was still well worth the money. Proabably wouldn't go back next year but maybe the year after.

If you are yet to go, wrap up warm and just relax, don't stress- your kid(s) will love it. The day is definitely what you make it, use the site and day to create your own magic don't just rely on the elves and staff. We said the the frost on the ground on the way out was the magic and it was starting to fade as we got closer to the car park. When we got back to our old VW campervan it was covered in sparkling frost and we told DD it was FC magic (as he had mentioned to her about the van). She nearly cried though when DH went to scrap it off the windows!

Brilliant day!

hertsnessex · 20/12/2007 00:14

We went on sunday - and my letter of complaint is int he post today. a total pile of shite. even my 3yr old didnt 'believe' the flight and the snow was like a foam party. waste of money, and a total rip off for food/drink.

hey-ho - u live and learn.

car25 · 20/12/2007 13:28

We went Monday. Were not told about our "timetable" and subsequently went straight to get something to eat and drink, later found out that we had missed toy factory and half of gingerbread house.

Absolutely freezing cold, even though we had wrapped up warm.

Father Christmas fab.

Wouldn't go again.

ChippolataMinton · 22/12/2007 10:35

Went yesterday, there was thick frost on the ground all day which added to the effect. The DC (6,5 & 4) were entranced by the whole thing and I think their admission price was worth it. Santa was fab, and his gift was a beautiful large soft toy reindeer each, and a very nice edition of The Night Before Christmas. For the adults there wasn't really anything and we felt the admission price was steep for what amounted to accompanying the children (although DH got chatted up by one of the elves, which made his day ).

TheChristmasFaggot · 25/12/2007 01:23

Those mischievous elves eh?!

nonstopmummykins · 28/12/2007 12:39

We went on a daytrip to the real Lapland last year in Dec when all that fog over Londion delayed the flights.Meant we wre delayed 3 hours at Heathrow, 3-4 hour flight to Rovaneimi, 1 hr on the coach to the tourist area and so rushed we all ended up being herded in to meet Santa as a tour group. With the same journey back and £1200 worse off, that's what I call poor value for money!!
Went to Lapland UK last week and loved it!!!Smile! Really authentic feel, log cabins, teepees etc Santa visit MUCH better than Lapland and he gave the kids (and Us)quality gifts that you don't get in Lapland (we had to take our own to sneak to the reps).
Great value, far more manageable all round! Smile.

HelpfulElf · 06/01/2008 10:27

This matter is governed by the Supply of Goods & Services Act 1982 (as amended), which states that any work or service carried out for you must be done with reasonable care and skill, within a reasonable time and for a reasonable charge (if not agreed beforehand).

I got this from Trading standards and thought it might be useful for those of you who had the same experience as me (and had to make the magic themselves in order to compensate for lapland uk)

"Any goods/parts provided should be of satisfactory quality, fit for the purpose and as described.

You may be entitled to claim compensation, usually a percentage of the cost of the visit. However, the amount will need to be negotiated with the trader.

If your letter does not get a satisfactory response to your complaint, you may have to consider using the small claims track of the County Court to get a resolution.

The contact at Trading Standards is:

Miss Louise Roberts
Advice Officer
Kent County Council Trading Standards
PO Box 71
Ashford
Kent
TN24 8WB

Tel: 01233 652385
Internal: 7001 2385

Please do make the effort so this thing is not a disappointment for those who have bought tickets for 2008.

mymama · 11/01/2008 09:50

Don't think I could get compensation as I am in Australia. But I agree with others that the experience was very disappointing. Our visit with FC was brought forward an hour and he had black hair poking out of the back of his hat. ds1 spotted it straight away. Then he talked about his brother emigrating to Australia in front of our dc.

For us it cost us = to $400 AUD. So huge expense for what it was.

nonstopmummykins · 11/01/2008 15:13

I thought elves were supposed to be happy, helpful creatures not militant rabble rousers.

"Helpful Elf" seems to be suffering from that all more frequent and horrible American style compensation culture.

Please don't try to speak for all of us.I have already registered to buy tickets for Lapland Uk again this year as my trip was by far the best thing I've experienced in this country.

Just because you had problems, don't make out all of us did!

DOT777 · 19/08/2008 20:53

Hi everyone

I cannot believe half of these comments posted by un happy people who visited Lapland UK last year, It cannot be the same place as I went, it was shear magic, worth every penny, absolute must for families.

I found out today that I may miss out on this year as there are approx 185,000 people in the queue in front of me .....so it can't have been that bad ....I'm so annoyed with myself for not leaving my details for this year ...

Dot Southborough Kent

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tiredemma · 20/08/2008 09:04

I have heard many people say it was shit.

eandh · 20/08/2008 09:04

how strange fio we didnt go last year but friends did aznd were bitterly dissapointed and tbh we normally go and see father christmas at leeds castle (around £8 per child) and its fab pluys we get a nice brisk walk and kids get to go to playground (although unknowingly think we may have infected lots of children with chicken pox last year as dd1 spots appeared that night!!)