Wolf Hall discussion continuation thread

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Continuing the thread from Telly Addicts, just in time for episode 4

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/telly_addicts/2288038-Damian-Lewis-fans-line-up-for-Wolf-Hall-tonight?msgid=52500336#52500336

Wow, he's going for bigger and bigger characters, isn't he?

Where does it say or imply that TC's family hate him? Don't remember that at all,in fact the opposite, I thought?

His family of origin may have done, but his son and the gang loved him and were loyal, from my understanding.

Am now 17% through WH. Delighted that it was at Archbishop Morton's house where TC was the bread boy to TM.

It was when TC went to see the princess Mary at Morton's old house and Gregory said that Mary liked TC in a surprised way. Then he said Grace liked him and Gregory said she did when he made her the angel wings. It all sounded like Gregory thought nobody liked him...

(Sorry about the "and then he said and he said and then he said ..." )

I also thought his family loved him. At least Anne did, and the boys.

what channel was 'the making of...' on?

Tiredemma it was a half hour interview with Rylance and the director on BBC4 here

Has anyone on the thread mentioned Hever Castle yet? I saw it pop up on my Twitter feed last night, with photos of their snowdrops, and now it's top of my list of places to visit...anyone been?

I went to Hampton Ct a few years back but only did the gardens and maze and not the interior. So now want to go back and do that too.

great article here from Wall st Journal. The Americans are going to LOVE WH

www.wsj.com/articles/damian-lewis-and-mark-rylance-star-in-pbs-masterpieces-wolf-hall-1425587807

Marshmallow Hever Castle is lovely. It's been busy every time I've been - it's going to be He(a)ving this year I think. And HC is wonderful too. It's enormous, so I've never done it all in a single day.

Another place with H8 connections that I love is Eltham Palace where H grew up. It's also got a 1930s bit added by its then owners, so it has lots to recommend it.

Hever is lovely as mentioned, Penshurst is nearby and well worth a visit.

Thanks for all the recommendations - I know Eltham Palace well as I was a bridesmaid at a wedding there once (idyllic place for a wedding if anyone is planning one...). And I remember the Eltham Ordinances vaguely from my A Levels...

Has anyone got any more book recommendations?

Thanks to this thread, I've read:

Divorced, Beheaded, Died...The History Of Britain's Kings And Queens In Bite-Sized Chunks, by Kevin Flude. As it sounds, an easy but interesting read.

Katherine Howard: A New History, by Conor Byrne. Rather dry and repetitive, but some interesting informative insights.

The Forgotten Tudor Women: Margaret Douglas, Mary Howard & Mary Shelton, by Sylvia Barbara Soberton. Absolutely fascinating, if sometimes a little hard to follow due to the infuriating Tudor custom of recycling the same few names. Recommended.

Five Wounds, by Katharine Edgar. YA fiction centred on the Pilgrimage Of Grace. Fabulous, say no more

Thomas Cromwell, by Tracy Borman. Excellent.

I've run out of Tudors, so I've downloaded Josephine Tey's Daughter Of Time, about Richard III.

Any other must-reads?

Oh, oh, and after seeing it referred to a lot in Forgotten Tudor Women, I looked up The Devonshire Manuscript, which was a communally-compiled collection of poetry and general musings circulated around Henry's court. I link to it in a separate post in case I lose this one.

Fantastic explanation of the Devonshire Manuscript here. Well worth the effort of reading in full.

You can read fascimiles of the actual manuscript here, with plain text translations.

I have finished WH and BUTB. I am bereft.

Hilary Mantel recommended Jane Boleyn by Julia Fox, it's not on kindle though.

TiredEmma, I meant to thank you for that Wall Street Journal link too, it was really good.

There's a great review of Wolf Hall (the book) here.

Oh, that's a shame about Jane Boleyn not being on kindle. I'll fill out the request form though, thanks.

BOF, have you read all the Alison Weir and Norah Lofts ones on the era? Am contemplating the AW Mary Boleyn one.

You're on for a treat with Josephine Tey...

Oh good- it's vile outside, so I'm going to make a and settle in....

I haven't read those, no, thanks. Is there a particular one that stands out?

I would add Tarnish by Katherine Longshore to the list (YA fiction on Anne Boleyn from the time when she came back to court to when she gets together with Henry)

also Divorced, Beheaded, Survived: A Feminist Reinterpretation of the Wives of Henry VIII, by Karen Lindsey. You won't agree with all of it (and some has been superseded) but it's thought-provoking.

It's a good being stuck indoors book!

The Lady In The Tower, which is about the last four months of AB's life is a good AW book.

Or you could inhale the other Alan Grant books from Tey?!

Has anyone read the book by Ford Madox Ford mentioned in that review - The Fifth Queen?

I have really really enjoyed reading this thread, thanks everyone! If we're thinking of good books and Richard III then I have to mention The Sunne in Splendour by Sharon Penman. Wonderful. I have read it twice and probably will again...