Government putting asylum seekers in student accomodation

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There is an article saying that the University of Leeds in Headingly is being used to house asylum seekers, I don't know if there are any further plans elsewhere.
It seems to me inappropriate to use student accomodation, I hope it will not be rolled out to other Uni's.

Fury in leafy suburb over plans to turn student halls into migrant accommodation

Asylum seekers need to be housed in purpose built camps like they are in other countries. Not detention centres but chalet style accommodation with 3 meals provided with immigration officers and other professionals available.

That’s what I would do if I were in charge!

They get rid of their documentation.

What has that got to do with the price of eggs?

I think the people who want them out of hotels don't want them here at all, not to move the problem

England has the highest density of population in Europe. Where do you propose building these tens of thousands of purpose built chalet style accommodations?

Do you really believe that? Anyone without documentation will be treated very differently.

You appear to have fallen hook, line & sinker for the lies & misinformation that certain groups are peddling.

Let me reassure you, this is not happening. The asylum seekers housed in the community have been screened and are awaiting their full assesment or their decision.

The way they are treated is they can’t be returned somewhere when there is no evidence they originate from there. Hence getting rid of their documentation. You seem incredibly naive. How do you think they are treated differently?

What does this refer to? What’s the screening

Investigated more thoroughly. Potentially detained. Having to report to the home office regularly. Etc etc. there are centres that deal with these people. It’s much more complicated process to apply for asylum without documentation.

I can’t marine the horrors that some of these people are fleeing for them to put themselves through thus.

An interview with an immigration officer on arrival. Documents checked. Fingerprinted. Records checked to see if they have claimed asylum before or elsewhere. The process is freely available on the government website.

Simplified version

“You register your asylum claim at a ‘screening’. This is a meeting with an immigration officer where you tell them about your case.
You’ll have your screening at the UK border if you claim asylum as soon as you arrive. You can also be screened once you’re in the UK if you become eligibke for asylum
At your screening you’ll:

• be photographed
• have your fingerprints taken
• have an interview to check who you are and where you’re from

You’ll be asked why you want asylum. You can bring written evidence to support your claim if you want, as well as any other documehts you need You’ll need to say if you or your dependants are taking any medication and give any relevant medical information. A dependant is your partner and any children under 18.”

So not really anything more than registration then….

It doesn’t check with country of origin? I suppose it’s not possible in most cases

Yeah if you're fleeing persecution I guess telling the persecuted country where you are and asking for a sort of reference may not fly.. .

So there’s no way to know much which is what people mean by vetting usually.

This isn’t what anyone is saying and is an offensive interpretation. The point myself and others were making is there is so much talk about sexual assaults by immigrants but the conversation needs to be about all men so we don’t get distracted by ‘fix the immigrant problem and we fix all problems’. How dare you suggest women are saying rape doesn’t matter.

This is the same as saying rapes happen so what if there are a few more?

It really isn't as you well know. I've explained previously.

This is about saying the rise of harmful sexual behaviour(HSB) is happening in the UK. This is happening across our society no matter the proportion of immigrants.

Very seriously, HSB is on the rise amongst children, especially in children in primary schools. This is in our society, our predominantly white, amongst British born citizens. No link at all with immigration.

You may as well say terminate all male fetuses or castrate make children to stop the rapes as say stop the asylum seekers.

Most rapists are known to their victims.

I keep seeing this nonsense repeated. We took on more people via the old Dublin agreement than were ever returned. Tiny numbers though in both cases.
Brexit is irrelevant. Brexit is about regulations and these people don’t care about regulations.

It is nonsense. The numbers were tiny and as you say we took more people, it was a way to enter.

It wasn't a way to enter 😂to be eligible for RETURN to the UK under the Dublin Convention you had to have been here previously!

The reason we didn't send more people back using Dublin was that the UK was really really poor at chasing the other countries. There was a time limit - 4 months IIRC - and if the sending country hadn't asked the receiving country by that deadline then they had to keep the applicant and process their claim. Other countries were very proactive at making requests within the time limit and we were crap at it.

What is it with ridiculous emojis, you are still overlooking the low numbers. All the numbers are tiny and as said we took more than returned.

If you are convinced it is anywhere near a deterrent feel free to say which EU country uses it that way, can you list them?

Sure. Germany, France, the Netherlands, Cyprus, Greece, Luxembourg, Denmark, Finland, Czechia, Hungary, Estonia, Slovakia, Switzerland, Norway, Iceland and Lichtenstein. All in 2024 used the Dublin Convention to return more people than they accepted under the same rules.

It wasn't designed as a deterrent to seeking asylum per se, it was designed to stop people from "shopping" for asylum by making repeat requests until they found a country that accepted them. And it has been extremely successful in doing that.

Yep and quite a few of those countries are facing the same issues we are with asylum and political pressure. We don’t have the situation we do due to not having the DA otherwise we’d be alone with that, we’re not, far from it.

That it comes up on all these threads means people are missing what’s going on in countries where the DA is still in place.