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Medicine without chemistry A Level

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AlphaApple · 12/03/2025 18:19

DD is in her first year of A Levels, Biology, Psychology and PE plus an EPQ. Studying is going well with As and A stars anticipated. She's always been interested in health related careers but after 2 days work experience at our local hospital is suddenly thinking medicine (having previously ruled it out). I understand without chemistry A level, options for medicine are limited.

Does anyone have any experience or advice? E.g. a foundation year or a university that doesn't require chemistry?

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PersonaPersona · 13/03/2025 14:57

redphonecase · 13/03/2025 06:59

There are about 10 med schools in the UK that don't ask for chemistry

But they do teach it. As a med student she will have to do the Chemistry element, regardless.

And those places who do not require the A level in Chem, are respectfully, not "top" medical schools.

mumsneedwine · 13/03/2025 15:03

And bingo. Those ‘top medical schools’ appear. There are no top Unis for medicine, no one cares where you go and all courses lead to you being a doctor. No one asks when applying for any job in this country - ever.

mumsneedwine · 13/03/2025 15:08

Snobbery is v alive and well in applications for medicine I’m afraid. One offer is fantastic and you go where your stats fit best. Not everyone likes or can afford London and not everyone wants 3 years pure theory at Oxbridge. And not everyone is Scottish.

PersonaPersona · 13/03/2025 15:11

mumsneedwine · 13/03/2025 15:03

And bingo. Those ‘top medical schools’ appear. There are no top Unis for medicine, no one cares where you go and all courses lead to you being a doctor. No one asks when applying for any job in this country - ever.

You bang on about snobbery if that makes you happy. The most important thing is employability.

If you've got a kid who is having a half-arsed try at getting into medical school, whatever medical school, with less qualifications than the majority who are absolutely gunning to go, they are likely to be one of the drop outs / end of year exam failures.

Nothing snobby about that. Sorry.

Notsupposedtohappen · 13/03/2025 15:19

You could think about an Access course. I know two people who became doctors this route through having the “wrong” A levels. Or you could start chemistry A-level and finish it a year later than the other A levels. Some schools may be amenable to this.

AlphaApple · 13/03/2025 15:43

PersonaPersona · 13/03/2025 15:11

You bang on about snobbery if that makes you happy. The most important thing is employability.

If you've got a kid who is having a half-arsed try at getting into medical school, whatever medical school, with less qualifications than the majority who are absolutely gunning to go, they are likely to be one of the drop outs / end of year exam failures.

Nothing snobby about that. Sorry.

Please do link to the research that supports your claim.

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EndlessWashingWhenWillItEnd · 13/03/2025 15:52

I would think about physiotherapy with a focus in the future on women's health. It's a decent living (not amazingly paid in the NHS but not bad) with fairly standard hours.

She could always perhaps do physiotherapy for a few years and perhaps switch to medicine as a graduate (although the debt could be horrendous).

mumsneedwine · 13/03/2025 17:18

Plymouth required higher grades than UCL, so I assume you believe they are better ? So do I 😂

MrsMedic · 13/03/2025 17:29

PersonaPersona · 13/03/2025 14:57

But they do teach it. As a med student she will have to do the Chemistry element, regardless.

And those places who do not require the A level in Chem, are respectfully, not "top" medical schools.

Totally untrue. Listen to Mumsneedwine. What she doesn't know about medical school applications isn't worth knowing.

ramonaquimby · 13/03/2025 18:52

What would be interesting is stats on how many medical students took A level chemistry but are studying at a university that does not require it.
My 5th year medic kid said chemistry was the most useful of their A levels close behind was biology.

There may not be 'standard' A levels for medicine, but I'd say the vast majority take a combination of chemistry, biology, maths or physics.

mumsneedwine · 13/03/2025 19:11

The vast majority do have Bio, Chem and one other. But many don’t and are just as successful. Every student turns up having done different A level boards and so Unis reteach bits in first term. Most of A level Chemistry had no relevance to medicine - only the organic part really. And I’m an A level chemistry teacher 😂

notatinydancer · 13/03/2025 19:52

TwinklyOrca · 12/03/2025 20:21

Surely she cannot be that serious about medicine if her mother is having to come one netmums to find out information on entry requirements ?

Does this comment make you feel good?
are you aware of how Mumsnet ( not netmums) works?
A poster can ask for opinions , advice and suggestions, then are free to do further research.

AlphaApple · 13/03/2025 21:23

@mumsneedwineyou are an absolute legend.

DD is back at her (residential) college and has an appointment with careers on Monday. It may be a long shot, and on paper she’s not a strong candidate for medical school but I’ve encouraged her to pursue it as far as she can so that she doesn’t regret “what could have been” in years to come. My sister let her doubts hold her back from medicine and over 30 years later still regrets it —even though her chosen career has made her a flipping millionaire—

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mumsneedwine · 13/03/2025 21:26

@AlphaAppleif I can help in any way please just ask. Never believe the rubbish you read about medicine - don’t even believe me but check for yourself. Unis are quite clear on their websites what is needed. Strategy is the key. Good luck. Probably see you on the Mecicine 2026 thread.

ramonaqueenbee · 13/03/2025 22:01

nocoolnamesleft · 12/03/2025 20:26

Ah. Then that's a far bigger problem than her A level choices. You should only go for medicine if it is absolutely the only thing in the world that you can imagine doing. Otherwise it will destroy you.

Sorry but this is nonsense and actually damaging nonsense. In reality, the best candidates are often those who have explored a range of options and made an informed choice.

NoNotHimTheOtherOne · 14/03/2025 07:30

I see the usual ill-informed nonsense is showing up here.

@AlphaApple As a medicine admissions tutor of long standing (and teacher of some moderately chemistry-heavy content), I'd say please listen to@mumsneedwine and take no notice at all of @PersonaPersona and a few others.

The only reliable source of information on A-Level subject requirements for medicine is https://www.medschools.ac.uk/studying-medicine/how-to-apply-to-medical-school-in-the-uk/entry-requirements (due to be updated for 2026 entry soon) and medical schools' own web sites. There are many medical schools that don't require chemistry A-level, and none that require maths.

Entry requirements | Medical Schools Council

https://www.medschools.ac.uk/studying-medicine/how-to-apply-to-medical-school-in-the-uk/entry-requirements

TaggieO · 14/03/2025 07:35

She could always do the access to medicine course if she does find she wants more of a grounding in chemistry, and then med school the following year?

user1471505356 · 14/03/2025 07:55

My son got an offer without chemistry, but because the medical school he wished to attend, he did chemistry at the tech. He said most schools require chemistry to reduce the number of applicants.

mumsneedwine · 14/03/2025 08:54

YOU DO NOT NEED CHEMISTRY. OR MATHS.

The main thing that secures an interview is UCAT

NoNotHimTheOtherOne · 14/03/2025 13:59

She could always do the access to medicine course if she does find she wants more of a grounding in chemistry, and then med school the following year?

Most medical schools won't consider students who have done an Access to HE diploma straight after A-Levels. That isn't what Access to HE is for. A fair few won't accept Access to HE at all.

ChangeitUp2 · 17/03/2025 17:04

mumsneedwine · 14/03/2025 08:54

YOU DO NOT NEED CHEMISTRY. OR MATHS.

The main thing that secures an interview is UCAT

It is a little odd that you're shouting.

The UCAT does include some questions that require a certain amount of Chemistry knowledge, surely?

"The Reasoning in Biological and Physical Sciences section includes questions that assess your knowledge and application of chemistry concepts, such as atomic structure, chemical reactions, and organic chemistry"

mumsneedwine · 17/03/2025 17:39

@ChangeitUp2im shouting because it’s boring having to keep saying the same thing.

You do not need Chem or maths. UCAT has no chemistry and basic gcse maths.

mumsneedwine · 17/03/2025 17:40

PS you quoted BMAT which no longer exists.

TAmum123 · 17/03/2025 17:54

Completely agree with @mumsneedwine
DS doesn’t have chemistry A level and applied to unis that don’t specify it. He had a very strong UCAT (3160) and that was the most important thing. We went 3 open days, all of which said the UCAT and his grades would guarantee him an interview as they were shortlisted just on the basis of those 2 things.
Also love your username @mumsneedwine !

ChangeitUp2 · 17/03/2025 17:57

mumsneedwine · 17/03/2025 17:39

@ChangeitUp2im shouting because it’s boring having to keep saying the same thing.

You do not need Chem or maths. UCAT has no chemistry and basic gcse maths.

Ok. Got it.

So you don't need to have A levels in Maths or Chemistry for entry to all medical schools, but you do need to be prepared to learn elements of both subjects as an undergraduate.